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    Regional Draw has been made.

    http://www.region1.com/NatlChamp/Schedules/schedule.htm

    #2
    Geez - second year in the row Mass state champs have had a really tough group. Last year GU14s had the premier league champion, DE and NJ. This year whoever the GU15 state champ is will have the premier league champion and North division runner up!

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      #3
      U16 boys lucked out - RI, VT and WV!

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        #4
        Why don't they seed this tournament rather than use a random draw? Do they use this approach in all regions.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Anonymous
          Why don't they seed this tournament rather than use a random draw? Do they use this approach in all regions.
          Because there are no common criteria with which to seed.

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            #6
            MA GU17 is in the group of death, Maryland, NJ, and ENY.

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              #7
              Originally posted by SoftGround
              Originally posted by Anonymous
              Why don't they seed this tournament rather than use a random draw? Do they use this approach in all regions.
              Because there are no common criteria with which to seed.
              they need a Universal Mathman.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Anonymous
                Originally posted by SoftGround
                Originally posted by Anonymous
                Why don't they seed this tournament rather than use a random draw? Do they use this approach in all regions.
                Because there are no common criteria with which to seed.
                they need a Universal Mathman.
                Would such an individual wear a cape, and have a spandex uniform with a big "M" on the front?

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                  #9
                  Re: Regional Draw has been made.

                  Originally posted by in the know
                  http://www.region1.com/NatlChamp/Schedules/schedule.htm
                  Has anyone but me noticed the dates on the Region 1 website are wrong? My calendar lists that Friday as June 29, Saturday June 30 & Sunday as July 1st. So when do the games begin; Friday June 29, or Saturday June 30???

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                    #10
                    Re: Regional Draw has been made.

                    Originally posted by BS
                    Originally posted by in the know
                    http://www.region1.com/NatlChamp/Schedules/schedule.htm
                    Has anyone but me noticed the dates on the Region 1 website are wrong? My calendar lists that Friday as June 29, Saturday June 30 & Sunday as July 1st. So when do the games begin; Friday June 29, or Saturday June 30???
                    There's one group game per day on tjhe 29th, 30, 1st. Semi-finals are the 2nd. Finals on the 3rd.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by SoftGround
                      Originally posted by Anonymous
                      Why don't they seed this tournament rather than use a random draw? Do they use this approach in all regions.
                      Because there are no common criteria with which to seed.


                      This doesn't seem to prevent virtually every other youth soccer tournament from seeding teams......

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Anonymous
                        Originally posted by SoftGround
                        Originally posted by Anonymous
                        Why don't they seed this tournament rather than use a random draw? Do they use this approach in all regions.
                        Because there are no common criteria with which to seed.


                        This doesn't seem to prevent virtually every other youth soccer tournament from seeding teams......
                        I think it is in part because when it comes to big decsions, like changing the way the championships are run, USYSA is like the US Senate. Each state gets equal voting. Let's face it, the only way that certain states have any real chance to progress into the semis is to be in a group with three other little states. This means that you occasionally get groups of NJ, Premier league and Virginia together. Unfair for sure. Imagine having a group of NJ, Virginia, RI and Vermont. In the first game Friday morning NJ beats Virginia 1-0. Virginia's tourney is then over. The better option would be to let certain states have two entrants and have to play Maine, W Virginia, W Penn ect. in a play in game.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Anonymous
                          Originally posted by Anonymous
                          Originally posted by SoftGround
                          Originally posted by Anonymous
                          Why don't they seed this tournament rather than use a random draw? Do they use this approach in all regions.
                          Because there are no common criteria with which to seed.
                          they need a Universal Mathman.
                          Would such an individual wear a cape, and have a spandex uniform with a big "M" on the front?
                          Don't forget the mask and the thigh-high boots...

                          More seriously, I don't think any of the regions seed. However, Region IV does do something the other Regions don't: they have quarterfinals, so the top *two* teams in each group advance. That makes the seeding less of an issue (though it doesn't completely remove it: in GU14, the two top-rated teams in the country, Arsenal and Slammers, both from SoCal, are in the same group). It seems like a much fairer way to do it.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Anonymous
                            Originally posted by Anonymous
                            Originally posted by SoftGround
                            Originally posted by Anonymous
                            Why don't they seed this tournament rather than use a random draw? Do they use this approach in all regions.
                            Because there are no common criteria with which to seed.


                            This doesn't seem to prevent virtually every other youth soccer tournament from seeding teams......
                            I think it is in part because when it comes to big decsions, like changing the way the championships are run, USYSA is like the US Senate. Each state gets equal voting. Let's face it, the only way that certain states have any real chance to progress into the semis is to be in a group with three other little states. This means that you occasionally get groups of NJ, Premier league and Virginia together. Unfair for sure. Imagine having a group of NJ, Virginia, RI and Vermont. In the first game Friday morning NJ beats Virginia 1-0. Virginia's tourney is then over. The better option would be to let certain states have two entrants and have to play Maine, W Virginia, W Penn ect. in a play in game.
                            This aint never gonna happen, but it would create a tournament where you had 16 teams with at least some shot at winning the entire thing. I hope our cousins from down east or Appalachia aint looking in but lets face it Maine, Vermont and W Virginia don't stand any chance from the get go. Yet teams from New Jersey, Eatstern PA, Virginia, Maryland and yes sometimes Mass. are left home despite having a legitimate shot to win the whole enchillada - sorry thats Region 4!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Anonymous
                              Why don't they seed this tournament rather than use a random draw? Do they use this approach in all regions.
                              It's not random. Like Rider the region is divided into tier 1, 2,and 3. The tier 3 States are spread amoung the groupings. The tier 3 States include MA, NH, VT, ME and RI. The lucky group gets two of the five. It's been that way for a long time.




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