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Everything is too expensive because our answer is always to throw more money at it.
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What a joke!
Luca Modric learned to play in a hotel parking lot.
He is not alone.
Everything is too expensive because our answer is always to throw more money at it.
So you want to get rid of club soccer and play in parking lots instead? Do you think that will work for a country as large as the US? What other options do you suggest?
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So you want to get rid of club soccer and play in parking lots instead? Do you think that will work for a country as large as the US? What other options do you suggest?
It works for a country as large as Brazil.
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So you want to get rid of club soccer and play in parking lots instead? Do you think that will work for a country as large as the US? What other options do you suggest?
The answer is not to get rid of club soccer, it's to get rid of the bloated costs:

Paid Coaches
Paid Coaching Directors
Paid Executives
Paid League Directors
Paid Association Staff

In other countries, there are:

Local unorganized games (free)
Year round school games (free)
'Club' teams (nominal cost, often subsidized by sponsorship and fundraising)
League/District Select Teams (equivalent to ID2/ODP, free)
Professional Youth Teams (free to player, at lower levels coaches and staff are still volunteer, at higher levels they are funded by the professional club)
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The answer is not to get rid of club soccer, it's to get rid of the bloated costs:

Paid Coaches
Paid Coaching Directors
Paid Executives
Paid League Directors
Paid Association Staff

In other countries, there are:

Local unorganized games (free)
Year round school games (free)
'Club' teams (nominal cost, often subsidized by sponsorship and fundraising)
League/District Select Teams (equivalent to ID2/ODP, free)
Professional Youth Teams (free to player, at lower levels coaches and staff are still volunteer, at higher levels they are funded by the professional club)
Sorry, but you aren't going to get far in this country without paid coaches. 10 years of soccer with volunteer coaches between my two kids and only one coach had played soccer growing up (and even he stopped playing before high school). It works in other countries because the volunteers have all grown up playing soccer and are still active fans of the game. I highly doubt you would find a volunteer soccer coach in Brazil who hasn't spent time as a youth playing the game and isn't highly knowledgeable regarding technical skills and tactics. The annual desperate appeal from our local soccer director for volunteer coaches stating, "You don't need to have any experience at all to be a coach," says it all! Can you imagine signing your kid up for piano lessons with a volunteer teacher who had never touched a piano before and was working off of a handout someone had given them 10 minutes before.

Unfortunately, unless someone can drum up a cadre of local college players to volunteer their time to coach youth soccer, we're stuck with paid coaches if we want any type of development to happen (and, yes, every town has one or two dads that played in college and coach their own kid's team, but that covers a very small fraction of the kids in the entire program). Along with paid coaches, comes your second item, the coaching director, who is needed to vet/hire quality coaches. Perhaps the leagues & associated fees we could do without, but it would take a substantial amount of communication between the club directors to organize match-ups that would ensure a good competitive match.

Local unorganized games would be great, and you would think it would be easy for the local rec director to send out a mass email to families in the organization (one rotating parent volunteer, who actually doesn't need to know anything about soccer, could hang around the field to ensure basic safety), but it isn't being done. Whenever we head out to the local fields in our town to play, there are never any other kids kicking the ball around to get a game going, which probably depends on the town. Chalk that up to town culture, I guess.
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Sorry, but you aren't going to get far in this country without paid coaches. 10 years of soccer with volunteer coaches between my two kids and only one coach had played soccer growing up (and even he stopped playing before high school). It works in other countries because the volunteers have all grown up playing soccer and are still active fans of the game. I highly doubt you would find a volunteer soccer coach in Brazil who hasn't spent time as a youth playing the game and isn't highly knowledgeable regarding technical skills and tactics. The annual desperate appeal from our local soccer director for volunteer coaches stating, "You don't need to have any experience at all to be a coach," says it all! Can you imagine signing your kid up for piano lessons with a volunteer teacher who had never touched a piano before and was working off of a handout someone had given them 10 minutes before.

Unfortunately, unless someone can drum up a cadre of local college players to volunteer their time to coach youth soccer, we're stuck with paid coaches if we want any type of development to happen (and, yes, every town has one or two dads that played in college and coach their own kid's team, but that covers a very small fraction of the kids in the entire program). Along with paid coaches, comes your second item, the coaching director, who is needed to vet/hire quality coaches. Perhaps the leagues & associated fees we could do without, but it would take a substantial amount of communication between the club directors to organize match-ups that would ensure a good competitive match.

Local unorganized games would be great, and you would think it would be easy for the local rec director to send out a mass email to families in the organization (one rotating parent volunteer, who actually doesn't need to know anything about soccer, could hang around the field to ensure basic safety), but it isn't being done. Whenever we head out to the local fields in our town to play, there are never any other kids kicking the ball around to get a game going, which probably depends on the town. Chalk that up to town culture, I guess.
The younger developmental years are so critical too. We have a lot of well meaning but not very soccer literate parents (many never even played), or low level "pro" coaches (quotes intentional) teaching kids the fundamentals. I used to serve on our town travel board - we'd offer training all the time and very few would take advantage of it. Iceland made a commitment to training all their coaches so that even the little ones have UEFA B lic coaches. Obviously ramping that up to a large scale here would be tough but it is important that kids learn properly from the start. Other sports like baseball or basketball have more parents who played at higher levels and know the game. We don't have that same army.
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What a joke!
Luca Modric learned to play in a hotel parking lot.
He is not alone.
Everything is too expensive because our answer is always to throw more money at it.
Part of that is cultural - it's much easier to find pickup games abroad than here because there's just more players, towns and cities are more compact and it's easier to get around. Free-play and preferably unsupervised play is an important part of development. Our kids get very little of that here. As it is many towns are kicking kids off of fields because of fears of lawsuits if unsupervised kids get hurt, or the town already rented them out because the town needs the income (hefty deposits and proof of insurance first please).
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Soccer Culture cry-daddy just woke up from his nap
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Perhaps OP should start his free program and let us know how it all pans out, in say, 7-10 years or so.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Perhaps OP should start his free program and let us know how it all pans out, in say, 7-10 years or so.
Says the club owner trying to justify his business
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