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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThere are 66 clubs participating in GDA.
They really do not have the best of the best.
The first year of DA, I think the split was probably 50-50 or maybe 60-40 between DA and ECNL on top talent level. I could not tell you who was 60 and who was 40 the first year because the split was fairly even.
This year with the departure of Slammers, PDA, Eclipse, Stars of Mass, Michigan Hawks, etc... the split was more like 60-40 or 70-30 in ECNL's favor. These clubs are historical national power houses and playing in ECNL or DA does not change the status of these clubs as powerhouses. I am actually getting bored with hearing about how ECNL or DA developed these players.
Next year with the departure of Crossfire Premier and a few other clubs, ECNL is gaining more traction. Crossfire Premier won the conference for both U17s and U19s so DA is losing a top club in the NW Conference. You should check out Crossfire's record vs both the Thorns and the Reign. We are talking about 2 NWSL clubs backed by US Soccer.
DA can pick which clubs they want, but it does not mean the club wants to do DA. Just ask the people at Crossfire, PDA, Eclipse, etc... After this season more club will leave. Colorado Real is likely going to leave as well as Dallas Texans and Solar. I am not really sure what is left.
The one thing that DA has going for them is they are backed by US Soccer and US Soccer are the one's picking the national team. Even with this leverage, top clubs are leaving GDA. Sophie Jones from San Jose Earthquakes was the poster child for DA the last 2 years and played in the U17 WC. She quit her DA team this Spring so she could play HS soccer.
Over the past 2 years you have seen some top clubs leave GDA. Can you name 2 top clubs that have joined GDA the last two year? Michigan Jaguars is not a national powerhouse.
Yes ECNL probably has more quality but what we really need is consolidation.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYes ECNL probably has more quality but what we really need is consolidation.
Never forget we are still here and claim relevance!
2017-18 U.S. Soccer Girls Development Academy Clubs (complete field)
CALIFORNIA-SOUTH (11): Beach FC, Eagles SC, LA Galaxy San Diego, LA Premier, Legends FC, LAFC-Slammers, Pateadores, Real So Cal, San Diego Surf, So Cal Blues, West Coast Futbol Club.
FLORIDA (7): Boca United, Clay County SC, IMG Academy, Jacksonville Armada Youth Academy (JFC), Orlando Pride/City SC, West Florida Flames, Weston FC.
CALIFORNIA-NORTH (6): Burlingame SC-MVLA, Davis Legacy-San Juan SC, De Anza Force, Lamorinda, Mustang, PSV Union.
NEW YORK (5): East Meadow SC, Empire United, Fury New York, Western New York Flash, World Class FC.
NEW JERSEY (3): Cedar Stars Academy-Monmouth, Match Fit Academy, Sky Blue FC-PDA.
TEXAS-SOUTH (4): Lonestar SC, Houston Dash, Houston United, Texas Rush.
TEXAS-NORTH (4): Dallas Texans, Sting Soccer Club, FC Dallas, Solar Chelsea SC.
MICHIGAN (3): Michigan Hawks, Midwest United, Nationals.
VIRGINIA (3): FC Virginia, Virginia Development Academy, Washington Spirit-Virginia.
WASHINGTON (3): Eastside FC, Crossfire, Seattle Reign.
COLORADO (2): Colorado Rush, Real Colorado.
GEORGIA (2): Concorde Fire, Tophat NTH.
ILLINOIS (2): Eclipse Select, Sockers FC.
KANSAS (2): FC Kansas City, Sporting Blue Valley.
MASSACHUSETTS (2): FC Stars, Boston Breakers.
ARIZONA (2): SC del Sol, Sereno SC.
NORTH CAROLINA (2): CASL, Charlotte Soccer Academy.
PENNSYLANIA (2): PA Classics, Penn Fusion SA.
CONNECTICUT (1): Oakwood SC.
INDIANA (1): Indiana Fire.
ILLINOIS (1): FC United
MARYLAND (1): Washington Spirit-Maryland.
MINNESOTA (1): Shattuck-St. Mary's.
OHIO (1): Cincinnati Development Academy/Kings Hammer/CUP.
OKLAHOMA (1): TSC Hurricane.
OREGON (1): Portland Thorns.
UTAH (1): La Roca Futbol Club.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNot sure what you mean by monopoly in South Cal. The only real club they have is Surf. The top club Slammers is ECNL. The other club SoCal Blues have most of their top players playing ECNL. Southern Cal is where they need DA or ECNL the least since you do already have a ton of college coaches there all the time.
Texas has Solar. FC Dallas and Texans are okay
Soon enough the guys in Southern California will again figure out that they can form their own elite league and make more money. Another "ECNL" will start up.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostRapture never happened.
The elite are playing HS, they passed on playing with the DA and US Youth Nat teams.
I too like fiction.
Michigan Hawks, Slammers (and LAFC), Eclipse, PDA, FC Stars, Crossfire, etc.. have all come back to ECNL.
So Cal Blues are still in DA, but there top players are play ECNL.
Colorado Rush has imploded and most of the players have gone over to Colorado Rapids - Colorado Storm.
Colorado Real is the top club in Colorado and is also headed towards ECNL.
You can make up more BS, but I think you know that the clubs that I just listed are the power house clubs in the country that have the history of graduating top players.
Now DA went from 12 relevant clubs to 5 or 6. It is just a matter of time before the top 5 or 6 start moving over because that is what their families want. DA will be left with Surf and Solar. All of the other clubs will be ECNL.
DA will still be around because they have the funds from US Soccer, but most the talent will be DA.
Most clubs don't like to nor do they have depth to split their top talent pool. It is almost impossible to move 100% of the players over to DA because you have a percentage of girl who are going to play HS soccer regardless of what club they play for. In order for you to consolidate your player pool you have to go with the option that allows for HS soccer.
Also people don't like the restrictive rules of the DA.
Not sure how you can call it "Development" Academy when you combine age groups and restrict substitution.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThere were about 24 clubs that really mater. About 12 went to DA and 12 to ECNL to start.
Michigan Hawks, Slammers (and LAFC), Eclipse, PDA, FC Stars, Crossfire, etc.. have all come back to ECNL.
So Cal Blues are still in DA, but there top players are play ECNL.
Colorado Rush has imploded and most of the players have gone over to Colorado Rapids - Colorado Storm.
Colorado Real is the top club in Colorado and is also headed towards ECNL.
You can make up more BS, but I think you know that the clubs that I just listed are the power house clubs in the country that have the history of graduating top players.
Now DA went from 12 relevant clubs to 5 or 6. It is just a matter of time before the top 5 or 6 start moving over because that is what their families want. DA will be left with Surf and Solar. All of the other clubs will be ECNL.
DA will still be around because they have the funds from US Soccer, but most the talent will be DA.
Most clubs don't like to nor do they have depth to split their top talent pool. It is almost impossible to move 100% of the players over to DA because you have a percentage of girl who are going to play HS soccer regardless of what club they play for. In order for you to consolidate your player pool you have to go with the option that allows for HS soccer.
Also people don't like the restrictive rules of the DA.
Not sure how you can call it "Development" Academy when you combine age groups and restrict substitution.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThere were about 24 clubs that really mater. About 12 went to DA and 12 to ECNL to start.
Michigan Hawks, Slammers (and LAFC), Eclipse, PDA, FC Stars, Crossfire, etc.. have all come back to ECNL.
So Cal Blues are still in DA, but there top players are play ECNL.
Colorado Rush has imploded and most of the players have gone over to Colorado Rapids - Colorado Storm.
Colorado Real is the top club in Colorado and is also headed towards ECNL.
You can make up more BS, but I think you know that the clubs that I just listed are the power house clubs in the country that have the history of graduating top players.
Now DA went from 12 relevant clubs to 5 or 6. It is just a matter of time before the top 5 or 6 start moving over because that is what their families want. DA will be left with Surf and Solar. All of the other clubs will be ECNL.
DA will still be around because they have the funds from US Soccer, but most the talent will be DA.
Most clubs don't like to nor do they have depth to split their top talent pool. It is almost impossible to move 100% of the players over to DA because you have a percentage of girl who are going to play HS soccer regardless of what club they play for. In order for you to consolidate your player pool you have to go with the option that allows for HS soccer.
Also people don't like the restrictive rules of the DA.
Not sure how you can call it "Development" Academy when you combine age groups and restrict substitution.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo you’ve named in one team, worth anything, in SoCal that went back to ECNL. By the way, you forgot to mention Legends and Beach FC as two of the top teams in the country.
Beach - no
I would still take Michigan Hawks, Slammers, PDA, etc... over Legends.
Just look at DA Playoffs last year.
3 age groups.... Slammers had 2 teams make it to the Semifinals at U17 and U19. They won u19s.
Legend was a finalist in U15 and Beach had a quarterfinalist.
Beach has always been okay at the younger ages and never did anything in the older HS age groups. They are not in the same category as Hawks, PDA, Slammers, etc... They are getting more coverage now because the are subcontracting Beastmode for their training. No way is Beach a top club in the country.
Legend is legit. It was always hard to tell with them because they did not play ECNL, but were good.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThere were about 24 clubs that really mater. About 12 went to DA and 12 to ECNL to start.
Michigan Hawks, Slammers (and LAFC), Eclipse, PDA, FC Stars, Crossfire, etc.. have all come back to ECNL.
So Cal Blues are still in DA, but there top players are play ECNL.
Colorado Rush has imploded and most of the players have gone over to Colorado Rapids - Colorado Storm.
Colorado Real is the top club in Colorado and is also headed towards ECNL.
You can make up more BS, but I think you know that the clubs that I just listed are the power house clubs in the country that have the history of graduating top players.
Now DA went from 12 relevant clubs to 5 or 6. It is just a matter of time before the top 5 or 6 start moving over because that is what their families want. DA will be left with Surf and Solar. All of the other clubs will be ECNL.
DA will still be around because they have the funds from US Soccer, but most the talent will be DA.
Most clubs don't like to nor do they have depth to split their top talent pool. It is almost impossible to move 100% of the players over to DA because you have a percentage of girl who are going to play HS soccer regardless of what club they play for. In order for you to consolidate your player pool you have to go with the option that allows for HS soccer.
Also people don't like the restrictive rules of the DA.
Not sure how you can call it "Development" Academy when you combine age groups and restrict substitution.
Why don’t they try to change the rules? Elite players don’t have to sacrifice anything.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy don’t they try to change the rules? Elite players don’t have to sacrifice anything.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWill the Thorns be relegated for next season? They were terrible this year. They should just play OYSA.
U15/16/17 all dead last in a weak division.
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