It was sure fun to see all the signing day activities for the 2013s. Any word on our 2014 verbal commitments?
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Ari Hudson - Florida State
Kaitlin Crowell - Montana
Zoe Higgins - Oregon
There have to be many more
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostPay NO attention to this TROLL. He/she is only trying to get a reaction. DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
Congratulations to all of the young soccer players!! I think there are many 2014's in the process of determining where they want to go but have not made their final commitments. It is a very talented group on both the girls and the boys side.
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Some of the early commits (especially on the girls side) for the 2015 group are probably being solidified currently. At least 2 of those mentioned for the 2014 group committed early last year. The boys side is not as exasperated which can actually be exasperating for parents.
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It would be unusual for there to be 2015 verbals on the boys side. There are a couple 2014s already but not many.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNot sure where there is a thread on verbals, they really don't care much weight.
I posted that, and wasn't trying to troll. It was more of a question then anything.
Congrats to all those that have signed this year and to all the verbals so far! Hopefully, there will be many more to come.
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Thanks, some info.
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHey, sorry.
I posted that, and wasn't trying to troll. It was more of a question then anything.
Congrats to all those that have signed this year and to all the verbals so far! Hopefully, there will be many more to come.
My comments below are specifically addressed to college women's soccer but are applicable to men's with the adjustment of time - men's soccer is 6-12 months or more later in high school.
1. Verbals are a big deal. Coaches offer them and if agreed to by the player, they will become known and published. Other coaches will honor the verbal commitment and not actively recruit those players. Unlike football and basketball, soccer coaches, 99%, will not contact players after the verbal, but will respond if contacted by the player.
2. The best list, which appears extremely accurate, regardless of what a player or parent or coach will tell you, is here: https://sites.google.com/site/soccerrecruits. Click on at the top on the words "Click here to view ..." and you will get all the info. There will be more players, parents, coaches, etc. that tell you that a certain player has "verballed" when they have not. This becomes apparent later when they don't sign an NLI or go to that college. It is a fairy tale that is told just like many other youth soccer fairy tales. There can be a delay in publishing here, but not more than a few days or a couple of weeks. My DD verballed one afternoon, was congratulated that night by her coach and players that at practice, before she said anything to anybody, and it was up on the website the next morning. Neither she nor I did anything. Sometimes a thoughtful player or college coach will not say anything until all the details are worked out. My DD's offers were complete with no details to be worked out.
3. My DD had several offers to verbal, all of them needed basic financial info, like the that required on a FAFSA, and then took up to 2 weeks for financial aid and compliance to make the offer, which were in writing, as to how much academic and athletic aid they were going to offer.
4. The website I referenced lists not only the most current verbals, but also verbals by year, college, club plus news releases of individual college teams by conference and a look at last year's starting roster towards the end of the season and who is coming back and who are not. The website is required reading for anyone planning to play in college.
5. All should be aware that a player only signs an NLI, (National Letter of Intent), a NCAA document, if you receive financial aid. It is signed on or after the first Wednesday in February until August 1. It binds player and college for one year.
6. Good programs often know that they must offer early to get the best players. My DD got a verbal offer along with financial aid info in January of her sophomore year. This was very tempting as it was from a very good coach of not a great program, but not a really competitive one. The best programs offered in the Fall of her junior year. I still remember the several parents telling me that they were preparing for the many offers for their DD, and none did arrive. Typical soccer parents. We didn't dare make a whisper about her offers or possibilities. Once known, not through us, several parents of her club team mates contacted the coach looking for offers. Rather embarrassing.
7. Verbals are not through the NCAA but rather the practice was started, apparently, by a group of SEC coaches. They may be broken by either party. This rarely happens unless something happens. For example, the player does poorly on academics, gets into some sort of trouble, has low SAT scores, etc. Players back out, like some very good recruits at UO a couple of year's ago, when coaches or their assistants, say something stupid to a recruit.
8. It is kind of a game, but a very, very important one. The most important part of all this, does the DD want to attend this college if they were not playing soccer? If no, don't go.
Hope this helps.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostVerbals seem to be one of those areas that are very misunderstood by players and parents, (and 99.9% of club coaches & DOCs plus high school coaches & counselors)
My comments below are specifically addressed to college women's soccer but are applicable to men's with the adjustment of time - men's soccer is 6-12 months or more later in high school.
1. Verbals are a big deal. Coaches offer them and if agreed to by the player, they will become known and published. Other coaches will honor the verbal commitment and not actively recruit those players. Unlike football and basketball, soccer coaches, 99%, will not contact players after the verbal, but will respond if contacted by the player.
2. The best list, which appears extremely accurate, regardless of what a player or parent or coach will tell you, is here: https://sites.google.com/site/soccerrecruits. Click on at the top on the words "Click here to view ..." and you will get all the info. There will be more players, parents, coaches, etc. that tell you that a certain player has "verballed" when they have not. This becomes apparent later when they don't sign an NLI or go to that college. It is a fairy tale that is told just like many other youth soccer fairy tales. There can be a delay in publishing here, but not more than a few days or a couple of weeks. My DD verballed one afternoon, was congratulated that night by her coach and players that at practice, before she said anything to anybody, and it was up on the website the next morning. Neither she nor I did anything. Sometimes a thoughtful player or college coach will not say anything until all the details are worked out. My DD's offers were complete with no details to be worked out.
3. My DD had several offers to verbal, all of them needed basic financial info, like the that required on a FAFSA, and then took up to 2 weeks for financial aid and compliance to make the offer, which were in writing, as to how much academic and athletic aid they were going to offer.
4. The website I referenced lists not only the most current verbals, but also verbals by year, college, club plus news releases of individual college teams by conference and a look at last year's starting roster towards the end of the season and who is coming back and who are not. The website is required reading for anyone planning to play in college.
5. All should be aware that a player only signs an NLI, (National Letter of Intent), a NCAA document, if you receive financial aid. It is signed on or after the first Wednesday in February until August 1. It binds player and college for one year.
6. Good programs often know that they must offer early to get the best players. My DD got a verbal offer along with financial aid info in January of her sophomore year. This was very tempting as it was from a very good coach of not a great program, but not a really competitive one. The best programs offered in the Fall of her junior year. I still remember the several parents telling me that they were preparing for the many offers for their DD, and none did arrive. Typical soccer parents. We didn't dare make a whisper about her offers or possibilities. Once known, not through us, several parents of her club team mates contacted the coach looking for offers. Rather embarrassing.
7. Verbals are not through the NCAA but rather the practice was started, apparently, by a group of SEC coaches. They may be broken by either party. This rarely happens unless something happens. For example, the player does poorly on academics, gets into some sort of trouble, has low SAT scores, etc. Players back out, like some very good recruits at UO a couple of year's ago, when coaches or their assistants, say something stupid to a recruit.
8. It is kind of a game, but a very, very important one. The most important part of all this, does the DD want to attend this college if they were not playing soccer? If no, don't go.
Hope this helps.
Also, what is the range that you've heard of for what players are offered? Do any girls get full rides? Full tuition? Or, are most offers in the $1000-$2000 range?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThanks for the information. We are new to this process. How did your daughter get noticed by the colleges? Was it tournaments her club team went to? Was it ODP? Or, did you send her info. to the colleges that she was interested in?
Also, what is the range that you've heard of for what players are offered? Do any girls get full rides? Full tuition? Or, are most offers in the $1000-$2000 range?
2. Scholarships are both academic and athletic. Some colleges, like WCC in the past and maybe today, give either an academic or an athletic scholarship, but not both. The academic ones are obvious from the college websites. They will get larger if the coach really wants her. The coach at D1 has 14 and the D2 coach 9.9 athletic scholarships to divide between all the players. That's like 28 half scholarships. In reality athletic scholarships are based on a percentage of the Cost of Attendance, see Financial Aid part of college's website for the amount. The more valuable a player is to a team, the more she receives. So it might be, as a percent of COA, get 20% first year, 40% sophomore, 60% junior year, 80% as a senior. This scale assumes a progressing player with ever more skills and value to the team. Or it could just cap at 25% for all four years. Rarely does a freshman get 80%. The higher percent often means that the player can't qualify for much in the way of academic aid based on grades and SAT's. I haven't expressed the other great benefits you receive as a player even if you get a small athletic scholarship. There are many that save a lot of money.
Hope that helps.
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