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    #31
    No one showed Messi how to dribble like he does. He learned that through countless hours playing inside and outside practice. There is no 'right' way to coach how to pull a ball back and around a defender while still going forward.

    The premise that many of the skills and game insights and recognition that differentiate top players can be taught is ludicrous. Play is the best way, and few US kids have the ball at their feet enough.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I agree, but also they need to know how to do those touches. Doing your "100 touches a day" wrong, is bad. Doing them and not knowing why, is bad.
      100 touches a day? Should be more like a 1,000. And that again goes to the point that it's all about feel and that just takes massive amounts of hours to accomplish. No coach is going to make a superstar out of a kid who only touches the ball 100 times a day.

      And the discussion is really good coach vs excellent coach, not bad coach vs excellent coach. Any competent coach can teach a player how to properly touch a ball.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I am a foreign born coach and although I think local coaches can be just as good I can attest to one basic difference based on your above statement:
        Even though some of the drills/exercises look the same the instruction may not be.
        The details and how you identify/explain/instruct make a world of difference.
        I was recently joined by an assistant (born here) who has been absolutely open to admitting that he did the same drills with a totally different outcome by the players.
        Having played at a very high level also contributes to the fact that those details have been ingrained for a long time. I firmly believe that the level you "played" on further enhances the way you coach/instruct players.
        This is why the best coaches and players in England are foreign.
        The Dutch,Spanish and especially south american coaches are used too watching fast technical players at all ages . They encourage lots of touches ,playing in small places ,vision etc. English and American coaches value speed and size.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          This is why the best coaches and players in England are foreign.
          The Dutch,Spanish and especially south american coaches are used too watching fast technical players at all ages . They encourage lots of touches ,playing in small places ,vision etc. English and American coaches value speed and size.
          Please stop lumping all English and American coaches together. Many of us see, understand, and try to pass on the nuances of the game. The Dutch, et al, coaches have players that also watch and emulate fast, technical play.
          We try to teach Biology with a Philosophy textbook

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Please stop lumping all English and American coaches together. Many of us see, understand, and try to pass on the nuances of the game. The Dutch, et al, coaches have players that also watch and emulate fast, technical play.
            We try to teach Biology with a Philosophy textbook
            American coaches learned from the English. Our system is based on English Rec coaches who couldn't get jobs in their own country.
            These guys are mostly pub players with badges. How can they develop talent if they themselves never had any.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              American coaches learned from the English. Our system is based on English Rec coaches who couldn't get jobs in their own country.
              These guys are mostly pub players with badges. How can they develop talent if they themselves never had any.
              American children have limited talent at best. And what little they have they squander on organized everything.
              The game is learned, which differs from being taught. 2 hours a week will not make you a skier, physicist, or used car salesman. Learning comes from enjoying the practice and training on your own. Our kids do not do that.
              Stop blaming our inability on everything except the reluctance to spend more than 2 organized hours a week with a ball.
              And it has nothing to do with your country of origin.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                American children have limited talent at best. And what little they have they squander on organized everything.
                The game is learned, which differs from being taught. 2 hours a week will not make you a skier, physicist, or used car salesman. Learning comes from enjoying the practice and training on your own. Our kids do not do that.
                Stop blaming our inability on everything except the reluctance to spend more than 2 organized hours a week with a ball.
                And it has nothing to do with your country of origin.
                It has everything to do with country of origin . The come for the job opportunity and it has driven the price of training up . Before the influx of foreign coaches you could play soccer without paying an arm and leg.
                Now these coaches ,mostly Brits have brain washed parents to think that if they don't get PROPER training they can't play soccer. If anything these coaches should be telling it like it is .

                " You don't need to pay $2500.00 a year for a u10 but instead get your self in some pick up soccer festivals or play dates and get more touches on the ball ".

                How come these clubs don't just do pick up soccer on the weekends or add an additional day just so the kids can play with their club peers ?No scores just fun , creative soccer

                Instead your have clubs like GPS and JSSA with a tournament every other week.

                Good for youth soccer or good for someone pocket ?

                Why would a foreigner with a visa /permit want America to be a soccer powerThe don't give a dam.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This is why the best coaches and players in England are foreign.
                  The Dutch,Spanish and especially south american coaches are used too watching fast technical players at all ages . They encourage lots of touches ,playing in small places ,vision etc. English and American coaches value speed and size.
                  If you assumed I was English you were wrong on that but it is also wrong to assume all English coaches are the same. The ones that come here are more likely not the best developmental coaches the country has to offer.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It has everything to do with country of origin . The come for the job opportunity and it has driven the price of training up . Before the influx of foreign coaches you could play soccer without paying an arm and leg.
                    Now these coaches ,mostly Brits have brain washed parents to think that if they don't get PROPER training they can't play soccer. If anything these coaches should be telling it like it is .

                    " You don't need to pay $2500.00 a year for a u10 but instead get your self in some pick up soccer festivals or play dates and get more touches on the ball ".

                    How come these clubs don't just do pick up soccer on the weekends or add an additional day just so the kids can play with their club peers ?No scores just fun , creative soccer

                    Instead your have clubs like GPS and JSSA with a tournament every other week.

                    Good for youth soccer or good for someone pocket ?

                    Why would a foreigner with a visa /permit want America to be a soccer powerThe don't give a dam.
                    Here is a little story to show why our mental capacity as Americans/paying customers are to blame for this.
                    I coached a group of 11 year olds once that were superior to any club players anywhere.
                    One parent left to take his kid to a club paying in the process 25 times more than what we in town charged. It had nothing to do with what the player was learning and everything to do with the notion that a coach with an accent /kids with matching warm ups/branding/price etc meant you got a "PROPER" and "PROFESSIONAL" training . I was fresh to this country and my wife filled me in that the parent thought he was getting more because he was paying more.
                    Let's not blame the Brits for taken advantage.

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