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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post"Academically" could refer to failing grades or not having enough credits. I would think it to be likely the later with a transfer student as mentioned earlier.
Whether it's something as simple as an expired physical, failing grade point average, or not having the appropriate waiver after transfer or to play for a national team -- you know the rules, you know the status. If you don't, it's not because you were confused or something wasn't clear in the rules...and certainly not for 11 games.
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Ludlow coach Greg Kolodziey said he was informed by athletic director Tim Brillo on Tuesday that one of his players was ineligible, and that the team turned the information into the MIAA once it found out. Kolodziey said he did not know the player was ineligible before Tuesday.
"We are going to deal with the consequences," Kolodziey said.
"The team will now appeal the MIAA’s decision to rule those games as forfeits. The appeal will take place in late October."
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn other words, we broke the rules, but don't apply the consequences. Typical.
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First, Ludlow is not out of it. The article says they qualify if they can manage 2d place in their division of their league. So the players have plenty of motivation.
Second, this happened just last year with Attleboro. Attleboro appealed, like Ludlow says they plan to do, and MIAA allowed Attleboro into the tournament. MIAA didn't want to discourage the reporting of violations by applying the penalty called for in its rules (you would think that would cause them to change the rules/penalties if they are not going to apply them, but have they?. The games with the ineligible player were regarded as losses, so Attleboro was in with a losing record and the lowest ranking in the south sectional.
So on one hand, Ludlow has a good argument in their appeal that Attleboro is a precedent, and Ludlow should be afforded the same treatment.
A counterargument should be that especially when it just happened last year, all schools should have been especially vigilant to make sure all students are eligible.
It may not be the same at all schools, but at many this responsibility is squarely the athletic director's. Students have to register to play a sport, and the AD uses that to confirm eligibility before a season begins. Principal should require a signed report from AD before each season that AD has checked everyone, and that should go to league office. This process basically takes it out of players' and coaches' hands, which all considered makes some sense. Either Ludlow's process has holes, or at least one adult did not follow the process correctly.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGood post. I'd argue it's both by virtue of those being one and the same at some point. The AD is responsible for the process.
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Did this young man not get his report card in June? He and his parents should have known before he went to try outs.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDid this young man not get his report card in June? He and his parents should have known before he went to try outs.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI guess you skipped the first paragraph of the article...
"Ludlow, the 17-time state champion, unknowingly played with an academically ineligible player in 11 of its 12 games so far this season and will be forced to forfeit all of those games. The team, which was 8-2-2 before the forfeits, will move to 1-11-0 and not have a chance to reach the .500 winning percentage necessary to make the postseason."
Maybe you skipped reading comprehension 101.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI didn't skip anything. What I wrote is accurate and still stands. The player was ineligible after game one but it took 10 more games before it 'came to light', after they were effectively eliminated from the tournament. Why not after game 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, or 10?
Maybe you skipped reading comprehension 101.
Got any other mind blowing conspiracies you can share with us?
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At the risk of placing reaponsibility, but what is the higher priority, education or ludlow soccer? Furthermore, I believe it is the 'student' that is responsible to attend class, learn, and get good grades. Thereafter some form of a parent should be overseeing the process. The third layer is the school. Although the latter has an obligation to track the students, I would not minimize the role and contribution of the former two. Or, have we deteriorated so much such that all blame falls on someone else for an individual's actions and outcome. Maybe someone can cry racism!!!
I hope in all of these concerns for the ludlow soccer team and the end of a streak of tournament appearances, someone will be concerned enough to look into the education of these kids.....perhaps the student themself....or their parents
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It's a nice idea that responsibility and standards applied to education and rules would come first.
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Oh I get it. 17 State Championships go out and recruit and bring good players to a public school. Then win and find out oops he wasnt eligible. Then go and blame the transfer rule. Right. I get it now. It is a private school recruitment to a public free high school. Tell the kids from Ludlow nice job playing for 10 years but Johnny from Adams is taking your spot. Then get caught and piss moan and groan that you didnt know??? Come on Really??
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOh I get it. 17 State Championships go out and recruit and bring good players to a public school. Then win and find out oops he wasnt eligible. Then go and blame the transfer rule. Right. I get it now. It is a private school recruitment to a public free high school. Tell the kids from Ludlow nice job playing for 10 years but Johnny from Adams is taking your spot. Then get caught and piss moan and groan that you didnt know??? Come on Really??
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