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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    This is precisely why these D3 threads are such a joke. Real people don't approach the world like the few D3 parents who dominate this forum apparently do. The one guy apparently has no problem writing whatever check needs to be written and sees the world in terms belonging to groups rather than personal accomplishment. The other guy seems to have the same financial wherewithal and just sees no real future from participating in sports so all of this just nets down to a childish endeavor that distracts from the real mission, education. Both of them have pretty skewed views of what education is and where it leads and think they have the answers for everyone. The reality is they are just close minded fools who can't accept that others have different opinions.
    What about the closemindedness of assuming that those with some measure of wealth have everything handed to them?

    Kids gaining acceptance at elite schools like NESCAC, MIT, Ivies, etc. are exceptional students - rich or poor. Kids who can maintain playing premier/club level soccer along with that level of academic achievement are even more exceptional.

    The fact that I can write a check has nothing to do with my kid studying the entire car ride to Jefferson Cup or writing papers until 2 a.m. after practice, not every kid has the drive to do that regardless of money. It's about motivation and commitment.

    Elite schools are elite because of the standard of achievement required to get into them, so while "money" is a convenient equalizer in these arguments, the truth is 95% of club soccer players will not even reach the red line of consideration for these schools regardless of family economic stature. They can't balance the commitment required.

    Also, most of these institutions have wonderful aid packages and no family will pay more than their fair share. Let's be honest, this about a small group of student/athletes who have consistently achieved at high levels throughout ALL of high school. A rare breed regardless of money and I understand why some folks want to denigrate their accomplishments.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      This is precisely why these D3 threads are such a joke. Real people don't approach the world like the few D3 parents who dominate this forum apparently do. The one guy apparently has no problem writing whatever check needs to be written and sees the world in terms belonging to groups rather than personal accomplishment. The other guy seems to have the same financial wherewithal and just sees no real future from participating in sports so all of this just nets down to a childish endeavor that distracts from the real mission, education. Both of them have pretty skewed views of what education is and where it leads and think they have the answers for everyone. The reality is they are just close minded fools who can't accept that others have different opinions.
      I am not either of the posters you are criticizing and I don't usually tangle with you BTDT, but if your goal is to enter into meaningful dialogue on this Forum, I don't see how calling people idiots, elitist asshats, close minded fools and DB's, advances your cause.

      I am also not Perspective, and despite being a long time supporter of "alternative paths" to the ECNL (I have 1 kid playing D-1 and 1 playing D-3 at a "highly selective" academic institution), I have finally come to see Perspective's point of view in just about every one of his tangles with you, including all the BS you put out there about the Stars.

      Please do your family a favor and get off this Forum before you do some real harm. Time for you to put away the keyboard, coach some basketball and enjoy watching your kid play soccer.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Gotta love idiots like these two posts.

        #1 - Doesn't realize that sports are a $145+ Billion industry in the US and that just about every business function that you find in any other industry is also found in it. One thing that is particular about this industry is athletic experience is generally a must and college athletic experience is highly prized. They certainly don't seem to realize that networking and resume building can happen just as easily on team as they can in a classroom.

        #2 - Is just an elitist asshat. You can bet this poster's kid came out of the womb with their path in life already charted for them. It is very clear how they see the world and that money is not an obstacle. These are the sorts of DB's that get their car keyed in the country club parking lot because everyone else hates them.
        This post rocks. Well said my friend.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Riker has a USSF B license also. Other nescac schools don't state what license their coaches have. Some say NSCAA license. Don't they all have to have that one?
          If they don't state what the coach has for ussf, do we assume they don't?
          Good luck to Conn college. Hope you have more success. You have worked hard for it and serve as a model for all programs out there that suffer with bad coaches that are not replaced.
          Roger Williams coach has an A ussf license. How important is licensing at D3 level? They have had another great year. How come we are not talking about him leaving?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Roger Williams coach has an A ussf license. How important is licensing at D3 level? They have had another great year. How come we are not talking about him leaving?
            He is a great coach who has accomplished a lot

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              He is a great coach who has accomplished a lot
              ok.
              How important is it to have an A or B license at the D3 level?
              What do coaches typically have for licensing at each level of college soccer?

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                ok.
                How important is it to have an A or B license at the D3 level?
                What do coaches typically have for licensing at each level of college soccer?
                In another post I saw someone was referred to as an asshat. I would like to use it on you also except I would like to add that you are an elitist asshat. Why should things be different at a D3 school? Should they not also have a well qualified coach? Are D3 schools second rate? Tell me that you would rather send Bobby/Sue to a big D1 school like UML with an A licensed coach instead of that D3 Williams College where that coach ONLY has a B license? You people miss the point of participating in sports because you probably missed your opportunity and/or you are now living vicariously through your kids. You need bragging rights to feel good in the morning!!!

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Roger Williams coach has an A ussf license. How important is licensing at D3 level? They have had another great year. How come we are not talking about him leaving?
                  great coach!

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Looking at 3 NESCAC schools and is a 2016. Two schools really like her and there was talk of getting early read and going ED. She also is looking at two other schools (1 A nescac AND THE OTHER a newmac) . She has mixed opinions of all four coaches. One coach shows interest via club coach and two others send emails that are general and refer as if they are responding to emails she has sent to them (which she hasn't). She can't figure out the last coach at all which is tough because that's her #2 school.
                    Any comments on NESCAC women's coaches out there? Who is good and who to stay clear of?
                    Anyone want to help out and give insight into these nescac womens coaches? Thanks.

                    Amherst
                    Bates
                    Bowdoin
                    Colby
                    Conn
                    Hamilton
                    Middlebury
                    Trinity
                    Tufts
                    Wesleyan
                    Williams

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      If your child can't play soccer well enough to earn a scholarship at a higher level program then of course they should focus strictly on the academics. That makes all of the sense in the world. In fact that should be considered almost a no brainer. What doesn't make sense is worrying about the soccer component at all. Even though your child may love playing soccer, why put all of this extra effort into something that is basically just an extra curricular activity for them? Your child is either going to play for the enjoyment of it or they are not. There really isn't anything else at this level. You really have to ask yourself though whether that weird vibe you are questioning really should actually even factor into the decision at all because if the academics really are the primary factor in the decision why would you walk away from any school just because of something related to soccer? Why not just skip playing soccer? At this level soccer shouldn't be more important than the primary goal - the academic fit. You seem to be putting way more of an emphasis on soccer by putting so much energy into finding the soccer fit. You either need to clarify what your goals are or be more focused on them because you seem to be putting the cart before the horse.
                      Absolutely right. And also 100% correct if you are looking at D1 programs as well. Odd to make the distinction that academics should be first in a D3 decision. Where would academics NOT be first? For the aspiring pro female soccer player? Probably even more important for them since they would be evidencing a deficit in higher order reasoning.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Absolutely right. And also 100% correct if you are looking at D1 programs as well. Odd to make the distinction that academics should be first in a D3 decision. Where would academics NOT be first? For the aspiring pro female soccer player? Probably even more important for them since they would be evidencing a deficit in higher order reasoning.
                        Assumes that everyone has the same priority which it is foolish to assume. Even if school is important to a kid, at the D1 level it is made pretty clear to them that the ability to play soccer trumps ability in the classroom and that makes choosing schools a little more complex than simply basing a decision on academic rigor.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Assumes that everyone has the same priority which it is foolish to assume. Even if school is important to a kid, at the D1 level it is made pretty clear to them that the ability to play soccer trumps ability in the classroom and that makes choosing schools a little more complex than simply basing a decision on academic rigor.
                          Thanks, BTNT. Good luck!

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                            Can only speak from our experience, but my kid had prereads in spring of junior year and overnights in fall of senior (in season so they would include a game) before applying. They like recruits to apply ED so you are locked in, especially if they are going to use an admission's "slot" on you

                            all our kid's prereads were in summer, just fyi.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Thanks, BTNT. Good luck!
                              We should start refering to you as SFDB (stupid f**cking d**che bag) whenever one of these asinine comments pop up. Good luck to you asshat, bet your mom's basement makes you feel all warm and cuddly!!

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Anyone want to help out and give insight into these nescac womens coaches? Thanks.

                                Amherst
                                Bates
                                Bowdoin
                                Colby
                                Conn
                                Hamilton
                                Middlebury
                                Trinity
                                Tufts
                                Wesleyan
                                Williams
                                Boy, everyone stayed clear of this one. Here's coaches I'd definitely give thumbs up:

                                Amherst, Bates, Bowdoin, Conn, Hamilton, Middlebury, Williams

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