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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Lots of people on here getting all worked up about which club is better than the other, spending lots of $ and time etc. The reality is only 1-2% of HS soccer players go on to play D1. That’s just the facts. Boys are around 1% and girls 2%. So don’t buy the bs that is being sold out there. If you include all collegiate divisions you’re looking at between 6-7% HS players actually playing college soccer, the majority of those being D3. Just think about that, on a roster of 20 on average only 1-2 will play D1. Of course that does not mean giving up on it, but be realistic with your options and choices. Some academies like PDA have a proven track record but you pretty much have to be on the top team. Others have zero track record, just check their websites. If you see nothing on there then you know you might be taken for a ride. Either way the stats are pretty sobering...
    You just gave numbers for HS players not Academy/Club players. Not all HS players play Academy or Club and not all Academy or Club players play HS.
    https://scholarshipstats.com/soccer

    Our middle of the road HS soccer team has all of 5 girls out of 20 that play for different township club teams and non play higher then EDP D3. A lot of the teams the play are in the same boat more or less. Obviously it would be near impossible for any of them to even get onto a D1 coaches radar let alone get recruited. Then you have HS teams like Ocean City and Eastern who are full of players from PDA and other ECNL, GA and USYS Academy teams and have several players that have already committed to top D1 schools. HS is no longer, and hasn't been in a long while, the bar for college soccer.

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      #17
      Here is my best advice to developing a D1 level player.

      1. At the early ages make sure your kid loves the work and the team and is coachable.

      2. Mentor them that all coaches see players differently and they need to be about the team first, and to work hard to get through that.

      3. Move your player to a tier A club by U11 or 12. Pick a club based on players you personally know who play there. Also, don't choose a club that you can't see yourself driving to 3X a week for 8 years.

      4. It just happens. Not really, it's an incredible amount of work and money, but it feels like it just happens. Trust the process has become a Meme, but it's true.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Here is my best advice to developing a D1 level player.

        1. At the early ages make sure your kid loves the work and the team and is coachable.

        2. Mentor them that all coaches see players differently and they need to be about the team first, and to work hard to get through that.

        3. Move your player to a tier A club by U11 or 12. Pick a club based on players you personally know who play there. Also, don't choose a club that you can't see yourself driving to 3X a week for 8 years.

        4. It just happens. Not really, it's an incredible amount of work and money, but it feels like it just happens. Trust the process has become a Meme, but it's true.
        and I will add one...
        5. Remember that your player needs to have been born with certain physical and natural talent first..then work hard as hell and really want it.

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          #19
          Follow on to 5. Girls develop differently. Some hit their physical maturity in 8th grade others not until 12th grade or college. I have seen some later developers go from projecting to be able to play at an obscure D3 school to getting D1 offers. 5 is true, you have to have better than average speed at a top level.

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            #20
            5 is also why you see some mega studs at U12 who fall off a cliff by U14.

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              #21
              Always fun to see the overlooked kid cut from top programs early on come back, when grown, to be a top player.

              To those short sighted coaches. Bad on you. Always looking for the tallest, biggest shiny new player...

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Always fun to see the overlooked kid cut from top programs early on come back, when grown, to be a top player.

                To those short sighted coaches. Bad on you. Always looking for the tallest, biggest shiny new player...
                Alex Morgan a great example. Cut early, came back grown and the rest is history.

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                  #23
                  i'd say 7th grade is right when you see things start changing because the girls are just getting to that point where they either love the game or they start wanting to do other stuff even if they do keep playing. They transition from little kids into teens who want independence.

                  Thats when you see the kids who truly love it and care, and who practice in the yard or dribble and juggle through the house all day start to separate. The ones who watch soccer on TV, play video games and actually enjoy it tend to go farther and the reality is no parent can really force it. Love of a game cant be dictated and it is really sad to see some people try. YOu see these psychos who create a situation where the kid believes their parents love is conditional, based only on them playing a game and scoring every goal and thats when the real burnout and even worse stuff starts happening.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Always fun to see the overlooked kid cut from top programs early on come back, when grown, to be a top player.

                    To those short sighted coaches. Bad on you. Always looking for the tallest, biggest shiny new player...
                    This is typical at most academies they would rather bring in outside players than develop and promote from the B teams and give those kids a chance. It’s disgusting.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      This is typical at most academies they would rather bring in outside players than develop and promote from the B teams and give those kids a chance. It’s disgusting.
                      It's a business and coaches want to keep their jobs. Good team results help clubs win new paying customers and coaches keep their jobs. Bringing in a few new studs is quick and easy, development takes time. And frankly many B team kids are there for a reason. No amount of development will make them top players, especially if they're not willing to put in the effort. Ro really improve you have to put in time off the field. Just practicing 2-3 times a week plus a game or two won't get you there. You'll only keep pace with your teammates.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Alex Morgan a great example. Cut early, came back grown and the rest is history.
                        It can happen but not often. Not all coaches are completely incompetent. She also had the drive to improve.
                        Middle school years are tough for girls because of puberty (it isn't always kind to girls) and kids growing at different rates. Boys it goes well into high school. US coaches love size and athleticism so the bigger, faster early development kids get noticed. The smaller, slower to mature kids need to stay motivated and keep working on their skills. Size and athleticism will only take you so far and those smaller skilled kids will pass you by soon enough

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          It's a business and coaches want to keep their jobs. Good team results help clubs win new paying customers and coaches keep their jobs. Bringing in a few new studs is quick and easy, development takes time. And frankly many B team kids are there for a reason. No amount of development will make them top players, especially if they're not willing to put in the effort. Ro really improve you have to put in time off the field. Just practicing 2-3 times a week plus a game or two won't get you there. You'll only keep pace with your teammates.
                          From experience I agree...its a big business where some coaches and DOC make $150K and up....so they need B & C teams and big rosters to pay for it.

                          And with 22-25 to even 29 on a team coaches have no time for personal development.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            It can happen but not often. Not all coaches are completely incompetent. She also had the drive to improve.
                            Middle school years are tough for girls because of puberty (it isn't always kind to girls) and kids growing at different rates. Boys it goes well into high school. US coaches love size and athleticism so the bigger, faster early development kids get noticed. The smaller, slower to mature kids need to stay motivated and keep working on their skills. Size and athleticism will only take you so far and those smaller skilled kids will pass you by soon enough
                            For girls, this post is nonsense, implying that athletic kids stop improving and/or small skilled kids have a long term advantage. Both are huge generalizations. People who think athleticism is not a big part of the sport are kidding themselves, usually because their kids dont have enough of it.

                            No one said to LBJ..hey dude watch out for those small quick guards, they are going to pass you by later. Athleticism is part of most sport - deal with it.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              From experience I agree...its a big business where some coaches and DOC make $150K and up....so they need B & C teams and big rosters to pay for it.

                              And with 22-25 to even 29 on a team coaches have no time for personal development.
                              Ok but that’s insulting to the B and C team players and parents or are they so oblivious to it it’s irrelevant? Shocking how any parent in their right mind would put up with this situations of 25 players on a team (assuming you’re one of the 14-25 players). The sad part is they often pay the same or even more as the A team players. The reason I say more $ is that special deals with significant discounts get cut all the time.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                For girls, this post is nonsense, implying that athletic kids stop improving and/or small skilled kids have a long term advantage. Both are huge generalizations. People who think athleticism is not a big part of the sport are kidding themselves, usually because their kids dont have enough of it.

                                No one said to LBJ..hey dude watch out for those small quick guards, they are going to pass you by later. Athleticism is part of most sport - deal with it.
                                People have to remember that we do not really have a system in the USA that would give any motivation to a club to wait for an immature player to get bigger, or who have systems of play that might make them re-prioritize towards smaller, technical players. We have a system, especially for girls, that just wants to maximize their contribution to the club's winning in youth competitions and then getting college placement, all for marketing. With this being the case, why woulld a club take a small, technical kid and wait years before the payoff when they can take a bigger, faster kid and get the payout now? None of these teams has an elaborate, technical playing style that would make it worth doing.

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