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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Not everyone played fall. HS age is really just starting (not really with the updated/ever changing covid regs.)

    An 06 who isnt in HS yet and now with the indoor freeze wouldnt have had anything going on team wise to any great degree yet the clubs want the money for the year after giving **** refunds last year.

    My older daughter was HS senior last year that played a few indoor games and one tournament with her club and got back $350 out of thousands after spring was cancled.

    Not getting hosed again/lesson learned so younger daughter is at a higher level local team for this season instead of one of the "elite" clubs. She is having fun and they all get to play significant minutes/no lame sub rules etc.

    It's a win/win for the parent as the savings in tuition is significant and the soccer is still soccer that your kid enjoys.
    Very smart approach but you’ll have to do your homework to find the right environment for your child and on top of that be very realistic. Learned the hard way to with my older daughter as she was at an academy that keep selling her and us that she’s a Div 1 player, she’s getting lots of interest etc. and at the end of the day it was all bull. She ended up playing D3 but if we knew that I would have been looking for a more affordable and local option instead of spending so much time and money listening to the freaking sales pitch of the club. Only 1 player of her roster ended up playing D1, and they fed that BS to everyone. Lesson learned for round 2 with my youngest.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Very smart approach but you’ll have to do your homework to find the right environment for your child and on top of that be very realistic. Learned the hard way to with my older daughter as she was at an academy that keep selling her and us that she’s a Div 1 player, she’s getting lots of interest etc. and at the end of the day it was all bull. She ended up playing D3 but if we knew that I would have been looking for a more affordable and local option instead of spending so much time and money listening to the freaking sales pitch of the club. Only 1 player of her roster ended up playing D1, and they fed that BS to everyone. Lesson learned for round 2 with my youngest.
      Parents of 7th and 8th graders should do their own research on the realities of college soccer. Pick some schools that could be a target for your player and take a close look at where players come and which ones get the most PT. It's eye opening and an exercise worth spending some time on. Also at that age if your kid needs cajoling and isn't willing to put in the hard work to make it as a D1 athlete, you're wasting your time. By HS making through the gauntlet to D1 is as much about skills as it is mental toughness and willingness to put in the hours.

      Think about those things, see how much these costly travel leagues will cost you in HS, along with the realities of athletic scholarships (hint: there's not as much $ out there as clubs want you to think). Many like you learn the hard way after it's cost them a lot of money and time.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Parents of 7th and 8th graders should do their own research on the realities of college soccer. Pick some schools that could be a target for your player and take a close look at where players come and which ones get the most PT. It's eye opening and an exercise worth spending some time on. Also at that age if your kid needs cajoling and isn't willing to put in the hard work to make it as a D1 athlete, you're wasting your time. By HS making through the gauntlet to D1 is as much about skills as it is mental toughness and willingness to put in the hours.

        Think about those things, see how much these costly travel leagues will cost you in HS, along with the realities of athletic scholarships (hint: there's not as much $ out there as clubs want you to think). Many like you learn the hard way after it's cost them a lot of money and time.
        Learning the hard way is never easy thanks for the advice. Wish the academies (and sorry to be so broad) are more honest with people as to not string along paying customers with false D1 college playing promises. When they are generic (stuff like your Sally is getting lots of interest and attention) but without actual details that’s usually a bad sign.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Learning the hard way is never easy thanks for the advice. Wish the academies (and sorry to be so broad) are more honest with people as to not string along paying customers with false D1 college playing promises. When they are generic (stuff like your Sally is getting lots of interest and attention) but without actual details that’s usually a bad sign.
          Being honest is bad for business. #1 rule in youth sports is it's ALL a business first.

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            #20
            Very hard to project 90% of 7th and 8th graders. For the 90%, it's a waste of time to project a college. It's also a dumb way to pick a club.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Just as an FYI for anyone reading who might benefit next year, an 06 not yet in HS is a trapped player and many leagues, including ECNL, specifically have rules that allow them to play "down" a year. A U15 player who is not yet in HS can play U14 during the fall and before the U15 season commences.
              Please explain and what leagues allow this?

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                #22
                ECNL allows 2 trapped players per game. Some clubs use it, some do not.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  ECNL allows 2 trapped players per game. Some clubs use it, some do not.
                  On some rosters they have up to 25 trapped players!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    ECNL allows 2 trapped players per game. Some clubs use it, some do not.
                    Weird way to punish kids born in oct nov and December

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Weird way to punish kids born in oct nov and December
                      This is mainly due to these clubs not allowing kids to play for another club during fall. What are they scared of? The kids and parents finding out that they can get better training, less stress and travel for cheaper at another club and leave?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Weird way to punish kids born in oct nov and December
                        Blame USSF for that. They changed the cutoff from Aug 1 (basically school year for almost a players) to calendar year which impacts thousands of players across the country. Prior to that only BDA had that rule in the theory they were aligning with international players. Well, 99.99999% of US players will never play professionally or internationally and if you're that good your birthday doesn't really matter. It has negatively impacted soccer and should be changed back

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          This is mainly due to these clubs not allowing kids to play for another club during fall. What are they scared of? The kids and parents finding out that they can get better training, less stress and travel for cheaper at another club and leave?
                          Its all a business. It's also why there's all these leagues - if you're worried about losing customers to a local club, just play a different league so families can't compare as readily. Ten years ago there weren't as many leagues and more teams played in state.

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                            #28
                            PDA shuts down over 10 teams

                            PDA had to shut down over 10 teams today. Crazy times.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              PDA had to shut down over 10 teams today. Crazy times.
                              Shut down due to covid spread?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                This is mainly due to these clubs not allowing kids to play for another club during fall. What are they scared of? The kids and parents finding out that they can get better training, less stress and travel for cheaper at another club and leave?
                                Honestly you hit the nail on the head. If you can find better training, less travel and a cheaper price in youth soccer you’ve hit the jackpot. Not much of that combination out there. It is harder and harder to find when the kids get older (U15/U16/U17) but still exists on a very limited basis. You’d be amazed how many “professionally” trained teams/clubs is subpar training.

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