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    Lots of people on here getting all worked up about which club is better than the other, spending lots of $ and time etc. The reality is only 1-2% of HS soccer players go on to play D1. That’s just the facts. Boys are around 1% and girls 2%. So don’t buy the bs that is being sold out there. If you include all collegiate divisions you’re looking at between 6-7% HS players actually playing college soccer, the majority of those being D3. Just think about that, on a roster of 20 on average only 1-2 will play D1. Of course that does not mean giving up on it, but be realistic with your options and choices. Some academies like PDA have a proven track record but you pretty much have to be on the top team. Others have zero track record, just check their websites. If you see nothing on there then you know you might be taken for a ride. Either way the stats are pretty sobering...

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Lots of people on here getting all worked up about which club is better than the other, spending lots of $ and time etc. The reality is only 1-2% of HS soccer players go on to play D1. That’s just the facts. Boys are around 1% and girls 2%. So don’t buy the bs that is being sold out there. If you include all collegiate divisions you’re looking at between 6-7% HS players actually playing college soccer, the majority of those being D3. Just think about that, on a roster of 20 on average only 1-2 will play D1. Of course that does not mean giving up on it, but be realistic with your options and choices. Some academies like PDA have a proven track record but you pretty much have to be on the top team. Others have zero track record, just check their websites. If you see nothing on there then you know you might be taken for a ride. Either way the stats are pretty sobering...
    Last year, PDA had something like 51 players from 4 teams committed to playing college (a mix of D1/2/3), so it's definitely more than just the "top team" in terms of players going on to play college. And there were some on the "top team" that chose to play D3, as well as some from the "non-top team" that went to D1 programs. I will agree that if you want to play at a P5 college, then likely you will need to be on the top team. But for everything else, there's a reasonable chance if you are a decent player playing on any one of these teams.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Last year, PDA had something like 51 players from 4 teams committed to playing college (a mix of D1/2/3), so it's definitely more than just the "top team" in terms of players going on to play college. And there were some on the "top team" that chose to play D3, as well as some from the "non-top team" that went to D1 programs. I will agree that if you want to play at a P5 college, then likely you will need to be on the top team. But for everything else, there's a reasonable chance if you are a decent player playing on any one of these teams.
      I agree PDA has a great track record, out of those 4 teams (3 of which are ECNL) about 20 ended up being D1. So 20 out of say 80 players is a great % for D1. It’s clubs like CSA, PSA etc. that are likely in the 1-2% range. Anyway, focus on academics as well! The $ could be much higher than for soccer there.

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        Of all players, yes those figures are true. When you get to ECNL or even GA, the numbers jump drastically and the vast majority of kids play college and a big %of that is D1. How many go on "full rides" is up for debate and harder to really understand.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Of all players, yes those figures are true. When you get to ECNL or even GA, the numbers jump drastically and the vast majority of kids play college and a big %of that is D1. How many go on "full rides" is up for debate and harder to really understand.
          True, although in those leagues you aren't guaranteed anything. There's a broad range of skills and not all are Stanford material. If you don't target right you could be left scrambling or even with nothing.

          Where it gets harder is with the leagues below the top two. Even with a top EDP team maybe half a dozen get recruited but will tend to be low level D1 and D2/D3. Parents should spend some time studying rosters to see what level most players came from

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I agree PDA has a great track record, out of those 4 teams (3 of which are ECNL) about 20 ended up being D1. So 20 out of say 80 players is a great % for D1. It’s clubs like CSA, PSA etc. that are likely in the 1-2% range. Anyway, focus on academics as well! The $ could be much higher than for soccer there.
            Always focus on the grades. A smart soccer player will have many more options. In the end the education is what matters. Strong applicants can receive substantial merit money that stays with you all 4 years.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Always focus on the grades. A smart soccer player will have many more options. In the end the education is what matters. Strong applicants can receive substantial merit money that stays with you all 4 years.
              Just like athletic money does. If you really want to focus on grades, why play at all?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Lots of people on here getting all worked up about which club is better than the other, spending lots of $ and time etc. The reality is only 1-2% of HS soccer players go on to play D1. That’s just the facts. Boys are around 1% and girls 2%. So don’t buy the bs that is being sold out there. If you include all collegiate divisions you’re looking at between 6-7% HS players actually playing college soccer, the majority of those being D3. Just think about that, on a roster of 20 on average only 1-2 will play D1. Of course that does not mean giving up on it, but be realistic with your options and choices. Some academies like PDA have a proven track record but you pretty much have to be on the top team. Others have zero track record, just check their websites. If you see nothing on there then you know you might be taken for a ride. Either way the stats are pretty sobering...
                This is a very accurate post because a player has to make their own opportunities. If payers do their research they will see what their chances are in playing at what level of college soccer. Everyone has dream schools and not enough are realistic. The top team at PDA has a distinct advantage. The advantage being the top players identified early on have been with this team o recruited from another team/club. If you look at the rosters of college programs and you see they only recruit ECNL then you know your chances are very slim if you play in another eagle. Those are the facts. It’s not sobering if your realistic about your talent. When you attend an ECNL showcase you and you see thousands of players from all 4 regions and 50 games being played simultaneously you get an idea how many players want to play in college.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This is a very accurate post because a player has to make their own opportunities. If payers do their research they will see what their chances are in playing at what level of college soccer. Everyone has dream schools and not enough are realistic. The top team at PDA has a distinct advantage. The advantage being the top players identified early on have been with this team o recruited from another team/club. If you look at the rosters of college programs and you see they only recruit ECNL then you know your chances are very slim if you play in another eagle. Those are the facts. It’s not sobering if your realistic about your talent. When you attend an ECNL showcase you and you see thousands of players from all 4 regions and 50 games being played simultaneously you get an idea how many players want to play in college.
                  You’re correct as well in that all these fugazi academies oversell D1 and the poor families fall for it like you would not believe. Then when their Sally only gets D3 offers they are so disappointed like you would not believe. At least PDA delivers results when it comes to D1, the others (another poster mentioned PSA, CSA, FC Copa etc)...well they are truly in that 1-2% range, which means 1-2 players out of 20. Make sure your kids enjoy the game folks and remember to be realistic!

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                    #10
                    1-2%

                    Why does everyone keep saying 1-2% of a 20 player roster is 1-2 kids? Am I missing something?

                    1-2% equals 1-2 players out of a 100 player roster

                    Or have I misunderstood something?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Why does everyone keep saying 1-2% of a 20 player roster is 1-2 kids? Am I missing something?

                      1-2% equals 1-2 players out of a 100 player roster

                      Or have I misunderstood something?
                      That’s so true, more spin probably so everyone can think they actually have a chance!!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Why does everyone keep saying 1-2% of a 20 player roster is 1-2 kids? Am I missing something?

                        1-2% equals 1-2 players out of a 100 player roster

                        Or have I misunderstood something?
                        Well, dumb soccer parents simply can't do math.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Just like athletic money does. If you really want to focus on grades, why play at all?
                          Not always. Power 5 is guaranteed, others are year to year. Most coaches will honor it because it's the right thing to do but it's not contractual. If you quit - which many will -it's gone.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Why does everyone keep saying 1-2% of a 20 player roster is 1-2 kids? Am I missing something?

                            1-2% equals 1-2 players out of a 100 player roster

                            Or have I misunderstood something?
                            1-2% of all HS players. On average a typical HS roster might have 1 D1 player on it. Yes that's > 1-2% but you're focused on the wrong thing. The point is overall very few will get through the very tight funnel into college ball at any level and even fewer for D1.

                            However, when it comes to CLUB teams some will have 100% playing in college, many D1, while others will place a handful mostly on lower level programs, and others still may will place none.

                            As for all the discussion about PDA's placements its a bit of the chicken and the egg. Top players are attracted to the club because of their placement record, and their placement record is good because they get top players. Yes clubs can help get players onto rosters but most of it is up to the player's hard work both on and off the field. They have to market themselves, work their butts off and perform when coaches come to watch them.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              1-2% of all HS players. On average a typical HS roster might have 1 D1 player on it. Yes that's > 1-2% but you're focused on the wrong thing. The point is overall very few will get through the very tight funnel into college ball at any level and even fewer for D1.

                              However, when it comes to CLUB teams some will have 100% playing in college, many D1, while others will place a handful mostly on lower level programs, and others still may will place none.

                              As for all the discussion about PDA's placements its a bit of the chicken and the egg. Top players are attracted to the club because of their placement record, and their placement record is good because they get top players. Yes clubs can help get players onto rosters but most of it is up to the player's hard work both on and off the field. They have to market themselves, work their butts off and perform when coaches come to watch them.
                              Very true. The concept of ECNL is to attract the best talent in the State to one club (or more depending on depth of talent). ECNL attracts home grown as well as the best players in the State from other clubs who are recruited to join. The prize is the doors of opportunity that opens for that group at ECNL events. Too many parents are caught up in clubs and training.

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