Player Release

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Youth soccer contracts for a year is a good thing only if it is serving both sides. Without contracts, it would be difficult to run a club.
Unfortunately, these contracts are designed only to benefit the clubs. Fundamental value based business rules are not followed and the contract is not in the best interest of the player development.
For example:
1. if a team commits for 14 players in the beginning when you sign the contract, how can a club roster 22 players as the season progresses?
2. If 14 players were the base, then when a player leaves that makes it 13. If that remains 13, then the leaving player should pay in full for that season. If the player is replaced with a new player, then the left player should be repaid on a pro-rated basis. But clubs use this to their advantage- ....does not make sense for "Player Development" model.
3. Contracts should be null and void, due for renewal whenever a coach is replaced: because some players sign to train under a coach....

Is it normal for a club to have a $1500 penalty on top of coaching fees if a player requests a transfer?

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If you pay

Don't pay. The contracts are a joke and most people leave because a promise hasn't been fulfilled, like the training wasn't what was expected, coaching changes, etc. (those who leave just because of PT issues or chasing something better excepted). They'll threaten you plenty but know that it's PR suicide if word gets out they're threatening families for payment.

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Is it normal for a club to have a $1500 penalty on top of coaching fees if a player requests a transfer?

Exsqueeze me? Never heard of that before. Was it in a contract? If so that line alone would make me NOT want to sign it. If a club is any good they know they offer a good quality service and even if someone left they could fill the spot. Weak clubs are the ones worried that losing a few players could kill their business model.

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Before December 1st a release is automatic if requested. After December 1st the only way to get a release is with the club agreeing to do so. They cannot deny a request before the 1st though.

You will not be able to leave without associated fees. If you are able to, please post it here because it will be the first time any club has just let someone leave with their pass.

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Exsqueeze me? Never heard of that before. Was it in a contract? If so that line alone would make me NOT want to sign it. If a club is any good they know they offer a good quality service and even if someone left they could fill the spot. Weak clubs are the ones worried that losing a few players could kill their business model.

PB Predators glorified Rec. program. Most parents have no idea what they are signing, paying for, or how bad or good a program is. FYSA should do a better job educating parents, but we shouldn't hole our breath.

There is a reason that Lacrosse, volleyball and some of the other emerging sports are growing in popularity...

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You will not be able to leave without associated fees. If you are able to, please post it here because it will be the first time any club has just let someone leave with their pass.

If you have good reason to leave - like the club played bait and switch and the coach sucks then telling the club to F off usually will do the trick. they know the contract sucks. Also, if your kid is clearly not in the right place and you approach without any attitude they may take pity on you. But if you go in cocky and are trying to move just because little Tommy isn't getting enough PT then you'll probably have to pay up before they'll let you go.

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You'll have to pay your fees so that your child is in " good standing". Only time I've heard that clubs have allowed you to leave without payment is when a team implode s at the beginning of the season.

And you don't "take your pass", its a fallacy. Their (fysa) pass is thru the club, not the state. If you leave the club, your child is released and cannot play until registered/rostered to another team or registered as a club pass player for tournaments but not rostered to a specific team.

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I have contacted my club about releasing my son and they have agreed and I am paying the balance due now for next year. My question is what do I need to do to ensure he is "released" in order to play region's cup with the other club in the Spring? Is there a 12/1 deadline for some paperwork to be submitted or is that for something else?

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I have contacted my club about releasing my son and they have agreed and I am paying the balance due now for next year. My question is what do I need to do to ensure he is "released" in order to play region's cup with the other club in the Spring? Is there a 12/1 deadline for some paperwork to be submitted or is that for something else?

Just went through this. You'll see his status on his gotsoccer account changed to "released". Happened for us same day club sent email to registrar to release. Roster freeze isn't until January. Don't rush.

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Just went through this. You'll see his status on his gotsoccer account changed to "released". Happened for us same day club sent email to registrar to release. Roster freeze isn't until January. Don't rush.

Getting an unconditional release for your player has nothing to do with the roster freeze.
According to FYSA bylaw 207.6
https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...02015-2016.pdf
A club can refuse for any reason to release a player unconditionally if the request is received after Dec 1st.

207.6 Should the affiliate deny the request, a reason must be given. Affiliates have the right to deny any release or transfer request for the following reasons:
 The player has guest played with the affiliate during the current seasonal year (FYSA Rule 209).
 The coach or team staff member is the player’s ODP coach (FYSA Rule 208).
 There is a financial obligation to the affiliate.
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 The request is received by the affiliate after December 1st of the seasonal year.
 Other contractual obligations to the affiliate.

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Just went through this. You'll see his status on his gotsoccer account changed to "released". Happened for us same day club sent email to registrar to release. Roster freeze isn't until January. Don't rush.

Whatever league the player is in has to release the player. GS has NOTHING to do with it, it just reflects whatever is inputted about a player by the league or team. More than one post said that the deadline is Dec 1. So, you were wrong about both statements but thanks for trying

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You'll have to pay your fees so that your child is in " good standing". Only time I've heard that clubs have allowed you to leave without payment is when a team implode s at the beginning of the season.

And you don't "take your pass", its a fallacy. Their (fysa) pass is thru the club, not the state. If you leave the club, your child is released and cannot play until registered/rostered to another team or registered as a club pass player for tournaments but not rostered to a specific team.

FYSA has deadline of Dec. 1st for unconditional releases. After that, a club can hold your kid's pass ( if they so choose ) until tryouts for next season.

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Whatever league the player is in has to release the player. GS has NOTHING to do with it, it just reflects whatever is inputted about a player by the league or team. More than one post said that the deadline is Dec 1. So, you were wrong about both statements but thanks for trying

Your reading comprehension sucks. Really it does. It's rather embarrassing. Try again? You're a fool but thanks for trying!

PP said he already contacted the club and they agreed to release (It's still November, so it's prior to the 12/1 date, therefore, it doesn't apply.) And it's not the league that releases the Player, it's the club. Again, comprehension skills, work on them okay?

Further, since almost all competitive travel soccer in Florida has player profiles on GotSoccer, he'll be able to see it in the player profile as being released. Remember, he asked how he could confirm it? Well seeing it there means it's confirmed! Very specifically, it says "released". If they don't use GotSoccer, wait- who isn't using GotSoccer in Florida?

Sidetracked- anyhow, if on the small chance your club doesn't have your kid's profile listed in GotSoccer, ask for an email to confirm. They cc the FYSA state registrar when they email you. At least, our email did.

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Let's work on this: https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...02015-2016.pdf

207.1 Players, or their parents for players under the age of 18, may request in writing to be removed from a team’s roster or from the affiliate. The affiliate may grant the request.

Any attorneys in the house? They "may" grant the request does not mean they "must" grant the request.

207.6 Should the affiliate deny the request, a reason must be given. Affiliates have the right to deny any release or transfer request for the following reasons:
 The player has guest played with the affiliate during the current seasonal year (FYSA Rule 209).
 The coach or team staff member is the player’s ODP coach (FYSA Rule 208).
 There is a financial obligation to the affiliate.
 The request is received by the affiliate after December 1st of the seasonal year.
 Other contractual obligations to the affiliate.

Seemingly if an affiliate (club) is going to deny releasing a player, they are likely going to go with "other contractual obligations to the affiliate" if financial obligations are met and none of the others can apply.

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Let's work on this: https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...02015-2016.pdf

207.1 Players, or their parents for players under the age of 18, may request in writing to be removed from a team’s roster or from the affiliate. The affiliate may grant the request.

Any attorneys in the house? They "may" grant the request does not mean they "must" grant the request.

207.6 Should the affiliate deny the request, a reason must be given. Affiliates have the right to deny any release or transfer request for the following reasons:
 The player has guest played with the affiliate during the current seasonal year (FYSA Rule 209).
 The coach or team staff member is the player’s ODP coach (FYSA Rule 208).
 There is a financial obligation to the affiliate.
 The request is received by the affiliate after December 1st of the seasonal year.
 Other contractual obligations to the affiliate.

Seemingly if an affiliate (club) is going to deny releasing a player, they are likely going to go with "other contractual obligations to the affiliate" if financial obligations are met and none of the others can apply.

If you are a big enough pain in the ***** they will let you leave. However the rules clearly state that you are committed for the team of a seasonal year. This is where people should do their due diligence and not sign with a club they have not fully researched. Clubs, DOC, Coaches and style of play are all things you should be aware of prior to signing. it is also recommended to hang out with the other parents during tryouts to make sure you either fit in or you are able to deal with the other psychos. if you do not see one you may be it so sit on the opposite end of the field.