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First of all, as was said before, proper skill and tactics can be taught regardless of the formation you prefer to employ. Secondly, I get the idea of looking at things developmentally in youth soccer but, aren't we talking about U17s?
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SB coaches to win NOT develop
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFirst of all, as was said before, proper skill and tactics can be taught regardless of the formation you prefer to employ. Secondly, I get the idea of looking at things developmentally in youth soccer but, aren't we talking about U17s?
Again, SB coaches to win against weaker teams NOT develop.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe TACTICS of a stopper/sweeper does not translate to any other zonal system of play. How many time have you heard form the kids that they don't know how to play a different formation. I'm assuming your kid, the stopper or sweeper, is playing HS. Watch how they play a flat four, which most HS teams do. The stopper will play to high and the sweeper will play to deep, stretching the defense in the wrong areas, allowing huge passing lanes and will allow a smart attacker to get in behind the player playing to high. Stopper/sweeper does not work with advanced skilled attacker/coaches.
Again, SB coaches to win against weaker teams NOT develop.
You just described players playing their positions improperly. That is not the fault of the formation. That is the fault of the players not maintaining proper spacing.
I'm not speaking from a perspective that has anything to do with where my kid plays. I am speaking as a coach who has used a wide variety of formations, at a variety of age groups(both genders) and I change formations to suit the strengths or weaknesses of my personnel. Now, you must coach your players to properly play your chosen formation. If you feel they aren't playing it properly and that needs to be fixed then ok but quality soccer can be played using any formation.
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rangers are the new celtic
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou hear from kids all the time that they don't know how to play other formations but I also hear all the time that they don't know how to play other positions. That's a comfort level issue. Not sure what that has to do with one specific coach.
You just described players playing their positions improperly. That is not the fault of the formation. That is the fault of the players not maintaining proper spacing.
I'm not speaking from a perspective that has anything to do with where my kid plays. I am speaking as a coach who has used a wide variety of formations, at a variety of age groups(both genders) and I change formations to suit the strengths or weaknesses of my personnel. Now, you must coach your players to properly play your chosen formation. If you feel they aren't playing it properly and that needs to be fixed then ok but quality soccer can be played using any formation.
Again, rangers are the new celtic
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis is not really a formation issue. The issue I have is the coach, LIKE YOU, are not teaching the game properly. You are coaching to win, playing a formation to suit the strengths or weaknesses of your personnel, not teaching the kids the correct way to, as a team, PRESSURE, COVER, BALANCE, and have MOBILITY...You are teach individuals to play like individuals. The entire team needs to work as a unit. So teaching the sweeper to sit back and only defend when the stopper or outside back makes a mistake. This is truly not how to teach the game. That's way I guess the fees are so low at the rangers, it because MC has uneducated coaches (DADDY COACHES) teaching these kids.
Again, rangers are the new celtic
I personally stay away from S/W. But if you teach proper defensive principles, you can sometimes use it to your advantage; ie: shutting down a fast forward.
BTW, "mobility" is not a defensive principle or attribute. Its offensive.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis is not really a formation issue. The issue I have is the coach, LIKE YOU, are not teaching the game properly. You are coaching to win, playing a formation to suit the strengths or weaknesses of your personnel, not teaching the kids the correct way to, as a team, PRESSURE, COVER, BALANCE, and have MOBILITY...You are teach individuals to play like individuals. The entire team needs to work as a unit. So teaching the sweeper to sit back and only defend when the stopper or outside back makes a mistake. This is truly not how to teach the game. That's way I guess the fees are so low at the rangers, it because MC has uneducated coaches (DADDY COACHES) teaching these kids.
Again, rangers are the new celtic
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe TACTICS of a stopper/sweeper does not translate to any other zonal system of play. How many time have you heard form the kids that they don't know how to play a different formation. I'm assuming your kid, the stopper or sweeper, is playing HS. Watch how they play a flat four, which most HS teams do. The stopper will play to high and the sweeper will play to deep, stretching the defense in the wrong areas, allowing huge passing lanes and will allow a smart attacker to get in behind the player playing to high. Stopper/sweeper does not work with advanced skilled attacker/coaches.
Again, SB coaches to win against weaker teams NOT develop.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou're not making any sense. The person you just replied to was basically saying that proper soccer needs to be taught. And THEN the kids can fit into any formation (because they know defensive principles). I agree with that coach. You teach the proper way to defend. But at the end of the day, you have to line the kids up in a formation that works for the team. And whether its a 4-4-2 or a stopper/sweeper 5-mids and 2 forwards,......the kids can then fit into it and know how to play.
I personally stay away from S/W. But if you teach proper defensive principles, you can sometimes use it to your advantage; ie: shutting down a fast forward.
BTW, "mobility" is not a defensive principle or attribute. Its offensive.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou correct that mobility is an offensive attribute, but it is a defensive one too. Its a transitional attribute that has to be taught for both principles.
In transition to offense, you want players to be mobile and get into spaces with runs.
In transition to defense, you want players to cover spaces behind the ball: cover (depth), compact, etc.
I won't explain in depth since all it takes is a google search.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostClearly you have no idea how to coach a variety of formations and based on what you keep writing you have no idea how a sweeper is properly used either. So, I asked this before, if we're not playing formations to suit our personnel then what formation is the magic one? Or should I just choose what's cool now and do some real coaching? I'm guessing you're a fan of the 4-2-3-1.
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U14 girls lose another starter to a knee injury. This time it's one of their center backs. This is the 5th knee injury suffered by this group, 4 are starters. A real shame for any team but they really seemed to be headed in the right direction.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostU14 girls lose another starter to a knee injury. This time it's one of their center backs. This is the 5th knee injury suffered by this group, 4 are starters. A real shame for any team but they really seemed to be headed in the right direction.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSix weeks to recover before FSPL starts back up, unless it's an ACL.
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