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    Wachusett-Westboro tie 0-0.

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      Could Shrewsbury make the tournament?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Could Shrewsbury make the tournament?
        Yes, they could.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          So if you are a D1 team you are better playing a lousy D1 team and beating them than beating a good D3 team? That doesn't provide much incentive to play strong non-league teams in your division.
          That's correct. The Walker System is an extremely flawed system. The west has been using it for years. Strength of team is not taken into calculation; only the division they reside in. You get more points beating up on the lower echelon D1 teams than by playing the strongest D3 teams who are much stronger teams. Makes absolutely no sense.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            That's correct. The Walker System is an extremely flawed system.

            Strength of team is not taken into calculation; only the division they reside in.

            You get more points beating up on the lower echelon D1 teams than by playing the strongest D3 teams who are much stronger teams. Makes absolutely no sense.
            Huh? The entire premise is to take the quality of opponents into account that seeding by winning percentage does not -- which is why we have the problem we have (Doherty and Nashoba don't play equal "Division 1" schedules).

            The modified Walker used in other sports does take the strength of team/schedule into account. It's not perfect, but it certainly addresses the flawed seeding in CMass D1 soccer.

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            STEP 1: Winning Percentage: Calculate the overall winning percentage for each team and numerically rank the results, with rank one being the best.

            STEP 2: Measure success against other tournament teams with rank 1 best.

            STEP 3: Following the objective information provided in Steps 1 & 2, the chairman and assistant will rank each team numerically with one being the best. This should be based on many factors including: Steps 1 & 2, head to head competition, record against higher teams based on Steps 1 & 2, record against common opponents, strength of schedule, and any other factors that the committee with rank 1 being the best, deems appropriate in separating the quality of one team from another.

            STEP 4: The rankings from each of the three categories (Step 1, 2, & 3) will be tabulated to establish a list of teams with the lowest number of points equals #1.

            TEAM % OF WINS + Success vs. Tournament Teams + COMMITTEE RANK = FINAL RANK
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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Huh? The entire premise is to take the quality of opponents into account that seeding by winning percentage does not -- which is why we have the problem we have (Doherty and Nashoba don't play equal "Division 1" schedules).

              The modified Walker used in other sports does take the strength of team/schedule into account. It's not perfect, but it certainly addresses the flawed seeding in CMass D1 soccer.

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              STEP 1: Winning Percentage: Calculate the overall winning percentage for each team and numerically rank the results, with rank one being the best.

              STEP 2: Measure success against other tournament teams with rank 1 best.

              STEP 3: Following the objective information provided in Steps 1 & 2, the chairman and assistant will rank each team numerically with one being the best. This should be based on many factors including: Steps 1 & 2, head to head competition, record against higher teams based on Steps 1 & 2, record against common opponents, strength of schedule, and any other factors that the committee with rank 1 being the best, deems appropriate in separating the quality of one team from another.

              STEP 4: The rankings from each of the three categories (Step 1, 2, & 3) will be tabulated to establish a list of teams with the lowest number of points equals #1.

              TEAM % OF WINS + Success vs. Tournament Teams + COMMITTEE RANK = FINAL RANK
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              How about this approach. Get the 18 points needed to be in the tournament and win the games you are scheduled to play.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                How about this approach. Get the 18 points needed to be in the tournament and win the games you are scheduled to play.
                Genius. Now back to seeding the teams that have done that in a way that makes sense since, among other problems, you have teams in certain "leagues" that have teams from different "divisions" playing one another.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Genius. Now back to seeding the teams that have done that in a way that makes sense since, among other problems, you have teams in certain "leagues" that have teams from different "divisions" playing one another.
                  Exactly. Here in Central MA, you have a couple of D1 teams that play mostly D3 teams throughout the season (within their league). Then have a very nice W-L record come seeding time and get put near the top. Only to lose in the first round year in and year out.

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                    Wachusett at Algonquin tomorrow night. Chance for Wachusett to establish themselves as the team to beat.

                    http://www.telegram.com/news/2016100...r-coaches-poll

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                      TS is boring and quiet compared to years past.

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                        Team Record Last Week No. 1 Votes Total Points
                        1. Wachusett 6-1-2 2 6 95

                        2. Millbury 8-1-0 1 1 75
                        3. Marlboro 4-0-3 4 4 74
                        4. Algonquin 6-2-1 3 - 72
                        5. Nashoba 4-2-2 5 - 58
                        6. Leicester 9-1-0 NR - 57

                        7. Valley Tech 7-0-0 T7 - 31
                        8. Sutton 5-3-0 6 - 27
                        9. Grafton 6-1-0 9 - 23
                        T10. Holy Name 6-2-1 T7 - 12
                        T10. Shepherd Hill 4-2-2 10 - 12

                        Dropped out: None
                        Others receiving votes: Westboro (3-2-4, 7), Nipmuc (6-2-0, 1), Tantasqua (5-4-0, 1).

                        No dispute with the Top 5. After that it gets a little silly, including the idea that Westboro isn't a Top 10 team. Doesn't matter though, lower ranked teams keep beating or tying higher ranked teams. Should be a WILD November!

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Team Record Last Week No. 1 Votes Total Points
                          1. Wachusett 6-1-2 2 6 95

                          2. Millbury 8-1-0 1 1 75
                          3. Marlboro 4-0-3 4 4 74
                          4. Algonquin 6-2-1 3 - 72
                          5. Nashoba 4-2-2 5 - 58
                          6. Leicester 9-1-0 NR - 57

                          7. Valley Tech 7-0-0 T7 - 31
                          8. Sutton 5-3-0 6 - 27
                          9. Grafton 6-1-0 9 - 23
                          T10. Holy Name 6-2-1 T7 - 12
                          T10. Shepherd Hill 4-2-2 10 - 12

                          Dropped out: None
                          Others receiving votes: Westboro (3-2-4, 7), Nipmuc (6-2-0, 1), Tantasqua (5-4-0, 1).

                          No dispute with the Top 5. After that it gets a little silly, including the idea that Westboro isn't a Top 10 team. Doesn't matter though, lower ranked teams keep beating or tying higher ranked teams. Should be a WILD November!
                          TH working magic at Leicester.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            TH working magic at Leicester.
                            Lost to Grafton yesterday.

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                              Kick and run with physical play, most teams have them figured out. One dimensional. Don't see a bunch more wins in their futures other then low level teams.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Team Record Last Week No. 1 Votes Total Points
                                1. Wachusett 6-1-2 2 6 95

                                2. Millbury 8-1-0 1 1 75
                                3. Marlboro 4-0-3 4 4 74
                                4. Algonquin 6-2-1 3 - 72
                                5. Nashoba 4-2-2 5 - 58
                                6. Leicester 9-1-0 NR - 57

                                7. Valley Tech 7-0-0 T7 - 31
                                8. Sutton 5-3-0 6 - 27
                                9. Grafton 6-1-0 9 - 23
                                T10. Holy Name 6-2-1 T7 - 12
                                T10. Shepherd Hill 4-2-2 10 - 12

                                Dropped out: None
                                Others receiving votes: Westboro (3-2-4, 7), Nipmuc (6-2-0, 1), Tantasqua (5-4-0, 1).

                                No dispute with the Top 5. After that it gets a little silly, including the idea that Westboro isn't a Top 10 team. Doesn't matter though, lower ranked teams keep beating or tying higher ranked teams. Should be a WILD November!
                                Even some teams that aren't ranked... Marlboro and Groton Dunstable tied 0-0.

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