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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo if you are a D1 team you are better playing a lousy D1 team and beating them than beating a good D3 team? That doesn't provide much incentive to play strong non-league teams in your division.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat's correct. The Walker System is an extremely flawed system.
Strength of team is not taken into calculation; only the division they reside in.
You get more points beating up on the lower echelon D1 teams than by playing the strongest D3 teams who are much stronger teams. Makes absolutely no sense.
The modified Walker used in other sports does take the strength of team/schedule into account. It's not perfect, but it certainly addresses the flawed seeding in CMass D1 soccer.
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STEP 1: Winning Percentage: Calculate the overall winning percentage for each team and numerically rank the results, with rank one being the best.
STEP 2: Measure success against other tournament teams with rank 1 best.
STEP 3: Following the objective information provided in Steps 1 & 2, the chairman and assistant will rank each team numerically with one being the best. This should be based on many factors including: Steps 1 & 2, head to head competition, record against higher teams based on Steps 1 & 2, record against common opponents, strength of schedule, and any other factors that the committee with rank 1 being the best, deems appropriate in separating the quality of one team from another.
STEP 4: The rankings from each of the three categories (Step 1, 2, & 3) will be tabulated to establish a list of teams with the lowest number of points equals #1.
TEAM % OF WINS + Success vs. Tournament Teams + COMMITTEE RANK = FINAL RANK
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHuh? The entire premise is to take the quality of opponents into account that seeding by winning percentage does not -- which is why we have the problem we have (Doherty and Nashoba don't play equal "Division 1" schedules).
The modified Walker used in other sports does take the strength of team/schedule into account. It's not perfect, but it certainly addresses the flawed seeding in CMass D1 soccer.
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STEP 1: Winning Percentage: Calculate the overall winning percentage for each team and numerically rank the results, with rank one being the best.
STEP 2: Measure success against other tournament teams with rank 1 best.
STEP 3: Following the objective information provided in Steps 1 & 2, the chairman and assistant will rank each team numerically with one being the best. This should be based on many factors including: Steps 1 & 2, head to head competition, record against higher teams based on Steps 1 & 2, record against common opponents, strength of schedule, and any other factors that the committee with rank 1 being the best, deems appropriate in separating the quality of one team from another.
STEP 4: The rankings from each of the three categories (Step 1, 2, & 3) will be tabulated to establish a list of teams with the lowest number of points equals #1.
TEAM % OF WINS + Success vs. Tournament Teams + COMMITTEE RANK = FINAL RANK
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHow about this approach. Get the 18 points needed to be in the tournament and win the games you are scheduled to play.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGenius. Now back to seeding the teams that have done that in a way that makes sense since, among other problems, you have teams in certain "leagues" that have teams from different "divisions" playing one another.
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Wachusett at Algonquin tomorrow night. Chance for Wachusett to establish themselves as the team to beat.
http://www.telegram.com/news/2016100...r-coaches-poll
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Team Record Last Week No. 1 Votes Total Points
1. Wachusett 6-1-2 2 6 95
2. Millbury 8-1-0 1 1 75
3. Marlboro 4-0-3 4 4 74
4. Algonquin 6-2-1 3 - 72
5. Nashoba 4-2-2 5 - 58
6. Leicester 9-1-0 NR - 57
7. Valley Tech 7-0-0 T7 - 31
8. Sutton 5-3-0 6 - 27
9. Grafton 6-1-0 9 - 23
T10. Holy Name 6-2-1 T7 - 12
T10. Shepherd Hill 4-2-2 10 - 12
Dropped out: None
Others receiving votes: Westboro (3-2-4, 7), Nipmuc (6-2-0, 1), Tantasqua (5-4-0, 1).
No dispute with the Top 5. After that it gets a little silly, including the idea that Westboro isn't a Top 10 team. Doesn't matter though, lower ranked teams keep beating or tying higher ranked teams. Should be a WILD November!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTeam Record Last Week No. 1 Votes Total Points
1. Wachusett 6-1-2 2 6 95
2. Millbury 8-1-0 1 1 75
3. Marlboro 4-0-3 4 4 74
4. Algonquin 6-2-1 3 - 72
5. Nashoba 4-2-2 5 - 58
6. Leicester 9-1-0 NR - 57
7. Valley Tech 7-0-0 T7 - 31
8. Sutton 5-3-0 6 - 27
9. Grafton 6-1-0 9 - 23
T10. Holy Name 6-2-1 T7 - 12
T10. Shepherd Hill 4-2-2 10 - 12
Dropped out: None
Others receiving votes: Westboro (3-2-4, 7), Nipmuc (6-2-0, 1), Tantasqua (5-4-0, 1).
No dispute with the Top 5. After that it gets a little silly, including the idea that Westboro isn't a Top 10 team. Doesn't matter though, lower ranked teams keep beating or tying higher ranked teams. Should be a WILD November!
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Kick and run with physical play, most teams have them figured out. One dimensional. Don't see a bunch more wins in their futures other then low level teams.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTeam Record Last Week No. 1 Votes Total Points
1. Wachusett 6-1-2 2 6 95
2. Millbury 8-1-0 1 1 75
3. Marlboro 4-0-3 4 4 74
4. Algonquin 6-2-1 3 - 72
5. Nashoba 4-2-2 5 - 58
6. Leicester 9-1-0 NR - 57
7. Valley Tech 7-0-0 T7 - 31
8. Sutton 5-3-0 6 - 27
9. Grafton 6-1-0 9 - 23
T10. Holy Name 6-2-1 T7 - 12
T10. Shepherd Hill 4-2-2 10 - 12
Dropped out: None
Others receiving votes: Westboro (3-2-4, 7), Nipmuc (6-2-0, 1), Tantasqua (5-4-0, 1).
No dispute with the Top 5. After that it gets a little silly, including the idea that Westboro isn't a Top 10 team. Doesn't matter though, lower ranked teams keep beating or tying higher ranked teams. Should be a WILD November!
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