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Average kid needs north of 2100 on their SAT's before they can start thinking about the Ivies. That also is a big uphill climb for most kids.

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I just love how people talk about the recruiting process like its so black and white. Your kid could be one of the top players (let's say a CM) around, and may get really good grades, but if the schools he or she wants to attend don't need CMs for their recruiting class, then talent and grades mean little.

Our youngest just committed to a D2 program (over 2 D1 programs) for several reasons. She is happy because, soccer aside, it was her first choice school for her major. She likes the coach and team too. We are happy because it's a good school for what she wants to do, she got tons of money, and she has a real shot at significant playing time her freshman year Since we all know professional soccer isn't in the cards...D1, D2...who cares as long as she likes her school and gets to play.

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I just love how people talk about the recruiting process like its so black and white. Your kid could be one of the top players (let's say a CM) around, and may get really good grades, but if the schools he or she wants to attend don't need CMs for their recruiting class, then talent and grades mean little.

Our youngest just committed to a D2 program (over 2 D1 programs) for several reasons. She is happy because, soccer aside, it was her first choice school for her major. She likes the coach and team too. We are happy because it's a good school for what she wants to do, she got tons of money, and she has a real shot at significant playing time her freshman year Since we all know professional soccer isn't in the cards...D1, D2...who cares as long as she likes her school and gets to play.

You would be describing a "targeting" failure that should never happen if you do your research properly. Seriously who even bothers thinking about a program that doesn't have a positional need if you are chasing a scholar? That's one of the first things you try to figure out.

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You would be describing a "targeting" failure that should never happen if you do your research properly. Seriously who even bothers thinking about a program that doesn't have a positional need if you are chasing a scholar? That's one of the first things you try to figure out.

It isn't always that easy to figure out. Looking at rosters only tell you so much and all it takes is a key injury and it all can change. Often times college coaches won't play you in where you've traditionally played (they like players that can be moved around). And even if a squad has two players for a position, it doesn't mean a coach is happy with those two players and wants someone even stronger. Coaches also will be very vague about their needs - even for keepers (I've got one of those in addition to a field player - you'd think it would be very clear cut but it isn't). Golden rule - if you only get a camp invite as a response they're probably not interested.

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I just love how people talk about the recruiting process like its so black and white. Your kid could be one of the top players (let's say a CM) around, and may get really good grades, but if the schools he or she wants to attend don't need CMs for their recruiting class, then talent and grades mean little.

Our youngest just committed to a D2 program (over 2 D1 programs) for several reasons. She is happy because, soccer aside, it was her first choice school for her major. She likes the coach and team too. We are happy because it's a good school for what she wants to do, she got tons of money, and she has a real shot at significant playing time her freshman year Since we all know professional soccer isn't in the cards...D1, D2...who cares as long as she likes her school and gets to play.

Precisely. If you know you want criminal justice or "applied science" D2 is a fantastic choice.

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If your AGI is $1M+ or <$150K and your kid has north of 2100 on their SAT's then an Ivy is a solid decision because your kid has a real solid shot of getting in and you are not really paying (or feeling) the freight for it. The bulk of everyone else is going to look upon even a paltry 50% discount to a fairly non valued college like a Fairfield to be a home run if their kid fits there academically and athletically. One of the persistent problems on this site is the parents that want to frame the discussion to be about the Ivies when in reality what they are really talking about is some D3 school. As though anyone in their right mind is going to take a school like Trinity over a school like Lafayette when there is $100-200K on the table from the later. Makes a much more noble story when you switch the school names to Harvard and Sacred Heart but unfortunately that just isn't reality.

Persistent problem? Really? How so? And for whom?

And where over the past 10 years did anyone say they would turn down an athletic scholarship to Lafayette to pay full price at Trinity? Got a link to that? Presenting false examples of schools on completely equal footing academically is deception at its finest. And kids who get athletic money to a Fairfield and are considering Fairfield as a top choice are not candidates for at a minimum the top 9 NESCACs.

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Just read this in another thread and thought more appropriate here.

"10/3 RPI

26. UConn
40. Providence
43. Harvard
57. BC
74. Northeastern
112. Brown
113. Dartmouth
130. Yale
146. UNH
162. URI

I'd be very happy to have my kid rostered on any of these Ivy teams. 4 in top 10.

When was last time BC was 4th, and BU wasn't in top 10 in New England?"

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Precisely. If you know you want criminal justice or "applied science" D2 is a fantastic choice.

TS - the place for D bags to trash other people's kids and their choices anonymously.

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Persistent problem? Really? How so? And for whom?

And where over the past 10 years did anyone say they would turn down an athletic scholarship to Lafayette to pay full price at Trinity? Got a link to that? Presenting false examples of schools on completely equal footing academically is deception at its finest. And kids who get athletic money to a Fairfield and are considering Fairfield as a top choice are not candidates for at a minimum the top 9 NESCACs.

Haven't read much from the D3 crowd have you?

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TS - the place for D bags to trash other people's kids and their choices anonymously.

TS - where D bags shout down information so others will fall off the soccer cliff just like them.

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It isn't always that easy to figure out. Looking at rosters only tell you so much and all it takes is a key injury and it all can change. Often times college coaches won't play you in where you've traditionally played (they like players that can be moved around). And even if a squad has two players for a position, it doesn't mean a coach is happy with those two players and wants someone even stronger. Coaches also will be very vague about their needs - even for keepers (I've got one of those in addition to a field player - you'd think it would be very clear cut but it isn't). Golden rule - if you only get a camp invite as a response they're probably not interested.

Seriously?? Who in their right mind factors in injuries? That only opens up last minute opportunities. Nothing you can plan for. Plot the roster by position and then go back 4-5 years and look at what positions the coach brought in. That will tell you pretty much all you need to know. Your golden rule should really be if they ain't literally chasing your kid it means that the both of you are reaching. Don't just settle for a coach throwing table scraps at you, go find a place where your kid will not only play early but impact. That's where the real interest and money will be.

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TS - where D bags shout down information so others will fall off the soccer cliff just like them.

And where's the thread where we can read about all these catastrophes, other than yours of course and the make believe ones in your mind?

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Haven't read much from the D3 crowd have you?

I've watched the site pretty closely for a while and never seen what you suggest, that anyone is paying full price at Trinity over a legit athletic half-ride to Lafayette or Lehigh.

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I've watched the site pretty closely for a while and never seen what you suggest, that anyone is paying full price at Trinity over a legit athletic half-ride to Lafayette or Lehigh.

Then either you haven't been visiting this site for long as long as you suggest or you are being too literal for effect. Usually the discussion compares Williams to a low level D1 school like Sacred Heart, the message is always the same though. If you are sincerely interested in reading about that sort of stuff you might want to use the search feature to go back through the archives a little. It won't be too hard to find it all. Plenty of arrows both ways but those basic claims are there usually followed by the ones that claim a top D3 program is equivalent to a bottom D1 program.

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Then either you haven't been visiting this site for long as long as you suggest or you are being too literal for effect. Usually the discussion compares Williams to a low level D1 school like Sacred Heart, the message is always the same though. If you are sincerely interested in reading about that sort of stuff you might want to use the search feature to go back through the archives a little. It won't be too hard to find it all. Plenty of arrows both ways but those basic claims are there usually followed by the ones that claim a top D3 program is equivalent to a bottom D1 program.

You're so confused. Yes, Williams versus Sacred Heart has been mentioned, not because they would ever overlap in real life, but precisely because they would not overlap in real life. A Williams admit isn't going to choose Sacred Heart but the point was that kids who go high end D3 might get offers at low level D1s where they have no interest as opposed to D1s academically in the ballpark of a Williams...or Tufts...or Brandeis. And any discussion about top D3 programs versus low level D1s in terms of level of play is an entirely different discussion than whether families, if they truly have the option, would choose a D3 for no money over significant money to an academically equivalent D1. I wish you could get help. You're just so, so enraged and distorted as a result.