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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The OP asked how players from Fl ranked against other states, so the post with the links may be the best answer to the OP .
    Best players in the South play Academy. Best teams in the nation are academy. Florida soccer players tend to be smaller and slower compared to California and New Jersey. What is being seen more and more is tall, fast, strong kids with a skill set and head for soccer blowing away everyone else and not getting injured as much as smaller players. A few exceptions do exist but those players are like was said, are exceptions meaning hardly worth talking about but nice to see when it happens.

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      #17
      Florida looking Good

      Fl. appears to be represented across the age groups pretty well. Ga. (Tophat specifically) is represented well too.

      http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/rosters...interregional/

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        #18
        Meant to put the girls link, obviously with Tophat mentioned.

        http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/rosters...interregional/

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          #19
          Region 3 has 12 states, not 17. The entire Southeast, Carolinas south and west to (and including) Texas

          see http://regioniii.usyouthsoccer.org/p...pment_Program/

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Best players in the South play Academy. Best teams in the nation are academy. Florida soccer players tend to be smaller and slower compared to California and New Jersey. What is being seen more and more is tall, fast, strong kids with a skill set and head for soccer blowing away everyone else and not getting injured as much as smaller players. A few exceptions do exist but those players are like was said, are exceptions meaning hardly worth talking about but nice to see when it happens.
            What is EXACT soccer camp?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Or the mom that calls in special favors to coaches she knows go get her daughter "looked at"
              I've seen this happen 1st hand from dads to. Our kid made it without any of that but it made odp look bad. We pulled out as it was just seen to us as a waste. I see no beneficial value in odp anymore. It is not all about talent more about who you know or how bad mom or dad acts on their son/daughters behalf. So much great talent never noticed or overlooked or just choose to not participate because of its failed structure.

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                #22
                Totally sour grapes. All but maybe 1 or 2 got there because they are good and nothing else. But to believe that, you have to be able to admit to yourself that those kids on the roster are better than yours. There is way more politics in id2. Coaches are promising spots to kids as recruitment tools. The kid gets id2 that soley based on coaches recommendations. and some kids get both...

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Totally sour grapes. All but maybe 1 or 2 got there because they are good and nothing else. But to believe that, you have to be able to admit to yourself that those kids on the roster are better than yours. There is way more politics in id2. Coaches are promising spots to kids as recruitment tools. The kid gets id2 that soley based on coaches recommendations. and some kids get both...
                  This subject of ODP's structure being full of politics, etc. has been BEAT TO DEATH on this site. We are new to ODP this year and in our experience we have seen none of that. Could it be better organized, probably. Could ODP staff communicate more proactively with those players that are selected, probably. But even if the process may be flawed (may be...), in my experience the best players do end up surfacing.

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                    #24
                    The systems in place are flawed everyone knows it this is a dead horse. It use to exciting to many when slected for these events anymore though it has become pointless.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The systems in place are flawed everyone knows it this is a dead horse. It use to exciting to many when slected for these events anymore though it has become pointless.
                      OK... I get it. Making good new friendships, receiving additional high-quality coaching and evaluation and playing against higher levels of competition outside of your club setting is.... pointless. Glad you cleared that up. For a split second it all sounded positive!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        OK... I get it. Making good new friendships, receiving additional high-quality coaching and evaluation and playing against higher levels of competition outside of your club setting is.... pointless. Glad you cleared that up. For a split second it all sounded positive!
                        It is pointless to the parents of those kids who are not selected.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The systems in place are flawed everyone knows it this is a dead horse. It use to exciting to many when slected for these events anymore though it has become pointless.
                          Name a system that is flawless. Since it is a dead horse which "undead horse" are you riding?

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Meant to put the girls link, obviously with Tophat mentioned.

                            http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/rosters...interregional/
                            So your saying the girls above got to this stage getting through

                            1) local selection
                            2) state selection
                            3) state pool selection
                            4) state team selection
                            5) region camp selection
                            6) pool play selection at region camp
                            7) final pool play region camp selection
                            8) region pool selection
                            9) region team selection
                            10) selection for inter regional event


                            Because they knew someone ? I think if you really think about this you should acknowledge the fact these kids are pretty good. Your experience is probably at the local level that you struggle with.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              So your saying the girls above got to this stage getting through

                              1) local selection
                              2) state selection
                              3) state pool selection
                              4) state team selection
                              5) region camp selection
                              6) pool play selection at region camp
                              7) final pool play region camp selection
                              8) region pool selection
                              9) region team selection
                              10) selection for inter regional event


                              Because they knew someone ? I think if you really think about this you should acknowledge the fact these kids are pretty good. Your experience is probably at the local level that you struggle with.
                              Thats what I thought. :)

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                So your saying the girls above got to this stage getting through

                                1) local selection
                                2) state selection
                                3) state pool selection
                                4) state team selection
                                5) region camp selection
                                6) pool play selection at region camp
                                7) final pool play region camp selection
                                8) region pool selection
                                9) region team selection
                                10) selection for inter regional event


                                Because they knew someone ? I think if you really think about this you should acknowledge the fact these kids are pretty good. Your experience is probably at the local level that you struggle with.
                                This is a great way of putting it. There are just too many critical eye balls looking at the ODP pool players for a kid that is not qualified to be there to advance through the various selections. It's like arguing the final selections for the MLB All Star team.... are there other players that may be equally deserving to be on the All Star team but it would be ludicrous to say that any of the players selected to the team don't belong there. Given the process, they would just not have made it through - they would have been kicked out.

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