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    #31
    It seems like mistrust of GTB on the WC side of the fence has been the one major lingering hold-up to a merger over the years, so how about something like this:

    There's a merger with an entirely new name and entirely new uniforms to be agreed upon by the combined boards of both clubs. But for the first two or three years, each club retains its own leadership. WC keeps its board and staff. GTB keeps its board and staff. Teams are combined along the TBU model. A newly-combined team with 51% WC players trains at WC. A newly-combined team with 51% GTB players trains at GTB. After this two or three year trust-building period, the full membership of the combined club votes on a new, single board and that board chooses the new DOC.

    So in the end, the final composition of club leadership is decided by the combined membership of the two clubs rather than the current boards of either club. A merger in which neither club is senior to or dominant over the other. GTB isn't taking over WC. WC isn't taking over GTB. A merger of equals with all the final decisions to be made by direct vote of the full membership of both clubs. A membership which, after two or three years of playing and growing together, would likely come to feel like part of one cooperative soccer family rather than two distinct bodies in direct competition with one another (which, let's be honest, is what we are today).

    Would a transition along those lines make the more skeptical members of WC more comfortable with a merger?

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      #32
      Problem with small local clubs and many Florida clubs. One coach trains one way one coach another. Doc/ED does not come up with curriculum for teams and coaches to follow. No coach training led DOC/ED some offered but coach must pay for it. DOC/ED coach teams so does not have time to watch practices and games of other teams. How can the ED/DOC help a coach improve if they can not watch them in action.

      This all creates high rate of turnover each year even on top teams. Look at GTB top B team how many player are left on the roster from u13 only 1 player has stayed every season. That is not a good thing.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        These are the facts: His filter was once again not in place and he said something inappropriate to one of his female players. The parent of this player and prominent soccer committee members went to RB and asked several reasonable things to rectify the situation including a verbal apology to the player and the parent. He got into it with said soccer committee member and resigned. He was not fired. There may have been additional stuff but this was the proverbial "straw that broke the camels back" for RB. Obviously there were other things brewing in his mind and he must have something else lined up as this was his living. No let's move on!!
        sounds like a classic case of 'I quit before you fire me'

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It seems like mistrust of GTB on the WC side of the fence has been the one major lingering hold-up to a merger over the years, so how about something like this:

          There's a merger with an entirely new name and entirely new uniforms to be agreed upon by the combined boards of both clubs. But for the first two or three years, each club retains its own leadership. WC keeps its board and staff. GTB keeps its board and staff. Teams are combined along the TBU model. A newly-combined team with 51% WC players trains at WC. A newly-combined team with 51% GTB players trains at GTB. After this two or three year trust-building period, the full membership of the combined club votes on a new, single board and that board chooses the new DOC.

          So in the end, the final composition of club leadership is decided by the combined membership of the two clubs rather than the current boards of either club. A merger in which neither club is senior to or dominant over the other. GTB isn't taking over WC. WC isn't taking over GTB. A merger of equals with all the final decisions to be made by direct vote of the full membership of both clubs. A membership which, after two or three years of playing and growing together, would likely come to feel like part of one cooperative soccer family rather than two distinct bodies in direct competition with one another (which, let's be honest, is what we are today).

          Would a transition along those lines make the more skeptical members of WC more comfortable with a merger?
          Sounds good to me; just get the flippen players and coaches together and let's move on together. This distrust you speak of was mainly coming from RB who feared he would lose his job. Now he is gone. I do like your suggestion/model overall. Well thought out.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Sounds good to me; just get the flippen players and coaches together and let's move on together. This distrust you speak of was mainly coming from RB who feared he would lose his job. Now he is gone. I do like your suggestion/model overall. Well thought out.
            Not true, as stated many times, Wesley Chapel will never accept a merger with MR AS doC

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              #36
              He tried to lick my wife's neck!!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Not true, as stated many times, Wesley Chapel will never accept a merger with MR AS doC
                Didn't you read the post he was responding to? WC wouldn't have to accept a merger with MR as DOC. MR would only be DOC of a combined club if WC members voted for him to be. If they didn't want him as DOC, he wouldn't be. After 2-3 years of each campus retaining its current leadership and staff, the full membership of the merged club would elect a new board. That board would select a new DOC. WC members would have every bit as much of a say in new leadership as GTB members. A merger of equals, not a take-over of one by the other.

                MR isn't DOC of GTB, BTW. DV is.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Steely Dan favorite. "No static at all.''
                  This is one of the best things I've ever read on TS! Well played.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    This is one of the best things I've ever read on TS! Well played.
                    Thank you. I once worked Geddy Lee into a thread about the Florida Rush. You have to have fun on here once in a while.

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                      #40
                      Ok, since RB is gone, can CM, the u16 boys coach he fired, get his job back?

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Ok, since RB is gone, can CM, the u16 boys coach he fired, get his job back?
                        RB wanted anyone fired that didn't agree with what he was doing. AN just went along with it all because he was getting a paycheck. It is really sad that guys like that don't do the right thing, all because of a few bucks. RB is a joke,classless, jerk and they all just went along with all his antics. Bunch of cowards

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                          #42
                          Ego goes hand in hand with some coaches. Sometimes, that's what makes them good a what they do. But realistically, we're talking about kids soccer, not the pros.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            RB wanted anyone fired that didn't agree with what he was doing. AN just went along with it all because he was getting a paycheck. It is really sad that guys like that don't do the right thing, all because of a few bucks. RB is a joke,classless, jerk and they all just went along with all his antics. Bunch of cowards
                            CM will not get his position back and is seeking other opportunities w/ local clubs. He has moved on to other things.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              RB wanted anyone fired that didn't agree with what he was doing. AN just went along with it all because he was getting a paycheck. It is really sad that guys like that don't do the right thing, all because of a few bucks. RB is a joke,classless, jerk and they all just went along with all his antics. Bunch of cowards
                              To take it a step further, to be candid, the U15 Girls Parents run that club. Look at the volunteer committee. What they want...goes. The dad that patrols the sidelines, and pulls the coach aside each practice. They even band together to place demands on the coach, and the coach will bow down to their wishes. Time for them to do their magic on FM. Good luck to him....he inherited a wild group!!!

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                To take it a step further, to be candid, the U15 Girls Parents run that club. Look at the volunteer committee. What they want...goes. The dad that patrols the sidelines, and pulls the coach aside each practice. They even band together to place demands on the coach, and the coach will bow down to their wishes. Time for them to do their magic on FM. Good luck to him....he inherited a wild group!!!
                                Very true. The parents are all very involved in the club, from the website on down. They get rid of the girls that challenge their own . Interesting though when RB offends one of their kids, they make a big stink about it while all along he has done it to others and those same parents were silent. How does it feel to be on the receiving end?

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