Roger Thomas and SAT expanding program for U13-U15

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It is not easy wearing three hats, but he is the owner, coach and trainner, which is not easy. As a buisness owner, he is looking at the bottom line, making money. As a trainner, his sole concern should be the development of the kids. The hard part is, how do you look out for the sole interest of the players as the trainner, if you know as the owner you need to bring in more income.

I think in his case, he has to put the interest of the buisness and money first, so the players naturaly have to come second.

What I find more concerning is the anti club stance, but he will attend club only tournaments like regions to scout out players. If he wants to provide group rate trainning sessions on the of days, that is fine, but he should not be trying to pursuade parents to leave the club for his program.

Their website talks about the kids enjoyment first, and positive stress free environment, but I have seen in tournaments his win only mentality, which is ok for me. This is how most club coaches are, I just do not understand why he thinks he is any different from them. His sole purspose is to win. I have witness his players sit on the bench the bench for most of the game, and him get very upset and negative with his players.

So I do not get it. Why not be real? Why put the club coach down when you are the same way? Just becuase your website says something, it does make make you any different from what goes on in the club. Why not work with the clubs, instead of pursuading parents to leave them???

This is around the time where people get tired of his act. The players and parents that have been a part of his program for a couple of years are seeing that his promises are not fulfilled, so they are looking to get out. He attacks clubs, but wants to be without the stress of playing in leagues. The truth is, he couldn't man every game and he is too lazy to drive around the county on weekends to "coach" his teams. He is very negative on the sidelines towards his players and has sat kids that have been loyal to his program for guest players he is trying to attract from local clubs. He is a fraud and his program is starting to show the wear and tear. This is why he hasn't been able to last in clubs before and they at least had an infrastructure in place. I don't buy the argument of wearing the three hats. If he were a good businessman, he would hire someone to take care of the administrative issues that he fails in. Granted it would take some money out of his pocket in the short term, but in the long run, if he could grow the program, he would recover it. His ego wouldn't allow it. As far as the training goes with the program, it is on par with every other club in the area. Some good, some bad.

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I had my kid there for a while trainning on the off days when not with our club. He was very anti club and always implied that he offered something better. He tried to push for us to leave the club and just train with him. We eventually left.

The trainning was not the same as it was a few years back. They had a coach there named Jan, who was the heart and soul of SAT. Once he left, the practices became very ordinary. Roger does not seem to have the energy level and motivation like Jan, or other top trainners.

On a persoanl note, he only seemed interested in my son becuase he was good and would in turn help him with his buisness by performing well in tournaments. He was not so attentive with other players of lessor ability. We all felt he saw himself as this master, and could be easily offended if he was not treated that way.

He is a good trainner and is knowledgable of the game. We just felt it was more about him and his own ego, than giving to the kids.

How are they doing in Disney? I heard they took a few teams up there?

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Losing. 4 games 0-4.

SAT and RT = biggest joke in South Florida

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Losing. 4 games 0-4.

SAT and RT = biggest joke in South Florida

Just saw this on another thread:

It just blows my mind that parents can be that gullible.
These two have been ripping people off for years now.

For many of these people, this is when they start to realize that he isn't what he says he is. If you play against yourselves all of the time and not in any league, what would you expect? The funny part is he tried to manipulate the teams by adding guest players and getting in easier brackets, but it didn't quite pan out for him. USA=United Soccer Abyss.

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Disney Fiasco

After the Disney (Danone Cup) failures, RT and SAT have been officially declared the greatest South Florida fiasco. If you only make it about the money the product can never be good and will suffer.

RIP SAT

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After the Disney (Danone Cup) failures, RT and SAT have been officially declared the greatest South Florida fiasco. If you only make it about the money the product can never be good and will suffer.

RIP SAT

Curious if you or anyone on here saw them play. If so, honest assessment of how the teams looked (without just bashing). Cheers

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Curious if you or anyone on here saw them play. If so, honest assessment of how the teams looked (without just bashing). Cheers

They sent two team into the danon bracket and both were knocked out with only playing the minimum three games a piece. Out of the six total games, they only won one to a team that did not belong there.

They sent another team u13 div 2, that did not win any of their games. I did see them play one game, but they just could not compete with the clubs they played.

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They sent two team into the danon bracket and both were knocked out with only playing the minimum three games a piece. Out of the six total games, they only won one to a team that did not belong there.

They sent another team u13 div 2, that did not win any of their games. I did see them play one game, but they just could not compete with the clubs they played.

The "better" Danone Cup team lost 1-0 to the Miami team that made the finals and really controlled that game. They also lost 4-3 to the Maryland team that looked to my uneducated eyes to be one of the best teams in the field. The other Danone Cup team wasn't expected to be competitive... they had some younger players...a girl... and a keeper that really didn't have the experience to play at that level. Team played well together... and was really more competitive than the scores would indicate.

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The "better" Danone Cup team lost 1-0 to the Miami team that made the finals and really controlled that game. They also lost 4-3 to the Maryland team that looked to my uneducated eyes to be one of the best teams in the field. The other Danone Cup team wasn't expected to be competitive... they had some younger players...a girl... and a keeper that really didn't have the experience to play at that level. Team played well together... and was really more competitive than the scores would indicate.

brace yourselves for all the would've, should've, could've from the sat folks. "controlled that game" and shouldn't have lost, lost to the best team, there will be plenty more of these coming. stay tuned

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He has a good training program, however, his teams are usually made of some guest players and he tries to pressure them into leaving CLUB teams. There are some players on his selected teams that bullies lesser players with no reprimand and their action runs off average players that may be late bloomers. Not sure if he would be able to handle more teams without more coaching help, time will tell.

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He has a good training program, however, his teams are usually made of some guest players and he tries to pressure them into leaving CLUB teams. There are some players on his selected teams that bullies lesser players with no reprimand and their action runs off average players that may be late bloomers. Not sure if he would be able to handle more teams without more coaching help, time will tell.

Wait.... Bullies?? Now I've heard it all. I've attended hundreds of practices over the past 4 years and have never seen (or heard of) any bullying.

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These are out of the mouths of the kids who have been bullied and degraded saying they suck. If you have not heard or seen you were not looking to closely

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These are out of the mouths of the kids who have been bullied and degraded saying they suck. If you have not heard or seen you were not looking to closely

that is 100% true. there are a couple of his golden children who can do no wrong and their attitude towards other kids reflect that. there's a favored group that is always used to demo everything in front of the other kids. much of this stuff is pretty basic and nearly any kid there could be used to demo many of these to change things up a bit and make more of the kids feel good about themselves. many clubs do this, where different kids demo different things. but wouldn't want to be too much like a club since everything about them is evil--i guess including the butt whipping they hand out to sat.

but yes have heard from several kids about the trash talking and bullying going on at the fields. but that's nothing unusual happens at just about every club--so sat is more like a club that they want to accept, that is without being able to compete with them at a high level.

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that is 100% true. there are a couple of his golden children who can do no wrong and their attitude towards other kids reflect that. there's a favored group that is always used to demo everything in front of the other kids. much of this stuff is pretty basic and nearly any kid there could be used to demo many of these to change things up a bit and make more of the kids feel good about themselves. many clubs do this, where different kids demo different things. but wouldn't want to be too much like a club since everything about them is evil--i guess including the butt whipping they hand out to sat.

but yes have heard from several kids about the trash talking and bullying going on at the fields. but that's nothing unusual happens at just about every club--so sat is more like a club that they want to accept, that is without being able to compete with them at a high level.

You're absolutely right about the bullying and degrading. If your kid hasn't mentioned it, he is probably the bully. I went for a couple of weeks and my kid refused to go anymore. He wanted to punch the kid, but it wasn't worth the hassle. The intent was to learn and improve, but if you're not great when you go, expect some verbal abuse when a mistake is made by your child.

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Look its very simple. SAT and RT provide basic training and they are pretty good at training younger kids to prepare them for competitive soccer. But once they are competitive it's time to leave the nest and go to a real club. They are good trainers and not good coaches. It's really that simple. If your kid is a decent player they need to get to a real club and start learning how to play the game as a team. RT has never been a coach, he is a trainer, period