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    REFUNDS please

    Put an email into our club looking for a refund.
    It’s been 5 days
    Crickets.

    #2
    The season hasn't been cancelled yet so why in the world would you expect refunds?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Put an email into our club looking for a refund.
      It’s been 5 days
      Crickets.
      Do you understand that clubs already paid leagues and tournaments?

      How are they suppose to give you a refund?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Do you understand that clubs already paid leagues and tournaments?

        How are they suppose to give you a refund?
        If clubs collected referee fees on behalf of the teams, they could at least return that money if no games are played. There is also usually some squish built into the registration fees to cover general club expenses that is also going to be mostly unspent this season.

        Above that you are right. It's hard to ask a club to return money that they themselves aren't going to get back from others. Hopefully the leagues and tournaments will return at least some of the money they collected from clubs so far.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Do you understand that clubs already paid leagues and tournaments?

          How are they suppose to give you a refund?
          Do you understand that clubs biggest expense is personnel hence the training?? No training and they save a lot of $$$ esp if they furloughed theirs coaches so they can collect unemployment.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Do you understand that clubs biggest expense is personnel hence the training?? No training and they save a lot of $$$ esp if they furloughed theirs coaches so they can collect unemployment.
            As long as there is the leagues still plan on playing the season, and at this point they all still are, there will be no refunds.

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              #7
              There will be no refunds until sessons are officially cancelled. For now everyone is trying to stay optimistic. Each club will have it's own finances and their ability to refund will depend on staff costs (and did they keep everyone?) owning fields vs rentals (were unused fields refunded?) etc. If tournaments are cancelled (makes sense to cancel events that require more travel, multiple states) then will organizers refund? I heard Jeff Cup isn't refunding and plans on running in July.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The season hasn't been cancelled yet so why in the world would you expect refunds?
                Why wouldn’t you expect a refund? No field Rentals, no training, no tournaments, no games. What are they collecting for? If/when the season starts they can collect payment. That is what any club that actually cares about it’s players and families would do. Everyone else are just looking for money and can care less.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Why wouldn’t you expect a refund? No field Rentals, no training, no tournaments, no games. What are they collecting for? If/when the season starts they can collect payment. That is what any club that actually cares about it’s players and families would do. Everyone else are just looking for money and can care less.
                  If and when the season starts up it will be on very short notice and the season itself is going to be condensed into a shorter number of weeks. There will be no time for the clubs to recollect fees at that point.

                  I personally think that the season should be cancelled, immediately, so that we can return money to the parents. But as long as the leagues are still holding out the potential of getting games in, the clubs are correct in not releasing any money back to the parents.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If and when the season starts up it will be on very short notice and the season itself is going to be condensed into a shorter number of weeks. There will be no time for the clubs to recollect fees at that point.

                    I personally think that the season should be cancelled, immediately, so that we can return money to the parents. But as long as the leagues are still holding out the potential of getting games in, the clubs are correct in not releasing any money back to the parents.
                    They have all the payment information on file. It’s not going to start overnight and clubs might not even have field access. It will take a few weeks to get the teams training and permits for fields, they will have time to collect. They are just being greedy. It will be harder to refund the money if the season is cancelled than it will be to collect the money later.

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                      #11
                      REFUNDS please

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      They have all the payment information on file. It’s not going to start overnight and clubs might not even have field access. It will take a few weeks to get the teams training and permits for fields, they will have time to collect. They are just being greedy. It will be harder to refund the money if the season is cancelled than it will be to collect the money later.
                      I'm not going to ask for a refund as I hope that the club we belong to will carry the registration over for the FALL season (if the spring season is cancelled in its entirety).

                      If your kid is a senior and graduating HS. Yes, I think you are entitled to some sort of refund.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        They have all the payment information on file. It’s not going to start overnight and clubs might not even have field access. It will take a few weeks to get the teams training and permits for fields, they will have time to collect. They are just being greedy. It will be harder to refund the money if the season is cancelled than it will be to collect the money later.
                        It will have to start almost overnight if they intend on getting any reasonable number of games in. Expect two weeks notice at most for the season to start. That being said, the need to start almost overnight is the same reason I do not think that a spring season will happen because a number of clubs will have trouble securing fields on such short notice.

                        FYI, payment information on file is almost useless. People who paid by check or cash would still need to physically get payments in and even those who paid by credit cards may have maxed out the cards by that time.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          If and when the season starts up it will be on very short notice and the season itself is going to be condensed into a shorter number of weeks. There will be no time for the clubs to recollect fees at that point.

                          I personally think that the season should be cancelled, immediately, so that we can return money to the parents. But as long as the leagues are still holding out the potential of getting games in, the clubs are correct in not releasing any money back to the parents.
                          That's an excuse not a legitimate reason. The registration fees are de minimis (less than 500/team or less than $50/kid), some leagues are even free. The real costs are training expenses. That isnt occurring. Those amounts should be refunded.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            That's an excuse not a legitimate reason. The registration fees are de minimis (less than 500/team or less than $50/kid), some leagues are even free. The real costs are training expenses. That isnt occurring. Those amounts should be refunded.
                            So let me ask all of you experts out there. Suppose they give back training fees. Coaches go and find an other job. The season returns. Who's coaching your kid?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              That's an excuse not a legitimate reason. The registration fees are de minimis (less than 500/team or less than $50/kid), some leagues are even free. The real costs are training expenses. That isnt occurring. Those amounts should be refunded.
                              If you just want training fees back, you have a legitimate argument. I wouldn't say the full amount as the training had already started in most places before the shutdown occurred and not all the trainers were immediately laid off.

                              But you are wrong about the registration fees being the only expense. You have the league fees, the pass fees, insurance fees, money laid out for field rentals, upfront money spent on field maintenance (purchasing paint, nets, goals, fertilizer, grass seed, etc), money collected for ref fees, some clubs purchase uniforms on the players behalf and more.

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