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just odd. plain and simple.

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Last NEP matches are schedule for June 11. Been that way all along.

Amen to the poster who talked about the economics of all of this. In the grande scheme we're destroying the livelihood of tens of millions of people. The reality is we will likely never know if it was worth it or not. Will you convince people it was worth it when they lose their jobs, then homes, can't pay for their kid's college, etc? Then what about the depression, suicide, substance abuse and so on that follows (and we know from science that it will).

No choice either way now, seems the people are easily quaranteened without putting up a fight, a dangerous thing to see....no public discorse.
In reality, give everyone until end of April to get supplies, protocols, high risk individuals isolation recomendations in place, then open back up.

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Is the spring season going to be canceled?

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I laid out what will likely happen based on what I know from the inside. No judgement involved. You're likely projecting so I would maybe think about why and address it.

As to what's more important, nothing. Literally nothing. Club soccer is part of our economy. It it touches families from many different socio-economic levels and ages. Seniors losing out on their last season, juniors losing out on recruiting showcases and games in the most important year for college recruiting, younger players losing their interest in the game because they are on electronics all day long with school closures, coaches out of work and not getting paid, clubs potentially closing, creating trickle-on effects for familes, workers, leagues, etc.

What you are seeing is our economy in a microcosm, and it is dying. So, no, no judgement, just reality. Note that I haven't said anything about death? It's a part of life and nothing is going to change that. My gut tells me too many are fearful because they think life owes them something. It doesn't We lost millions in WWII. Europe and Asia's economies were destroyed. And yet, the US economy didn't shut down, it thrived during that period. Why on earth do we think a few thousand deaths from Corona should be prioritized over the 300+ million of us who have to get on with our lives or the Billions globally who are dealing with this economic nightmare?

Who’s projecting, sounds like you are? You miss the point and need to open a history book. While it’s important people have the basics, the economy is a secondary consideration while we work to contain and find a treatment for the virus and treat the sick. Club soccer, eating out, and vacations are luxuries and in an emergency are the first things to go.

And where to begin with your distorted views on WW2? The US economy was in a shambles during WW2. Luxuries where non-existent and goods were rationed for the war effort. You were given government quotas on basic items like milk, eggs, bread, etc. The government was hemorrhaging money and the national debt was soaring. There were constant bond drives to raise money just to keep the government from collapsing. The fortunate outcome was that we won and managed to keep the war off our shores. Those millions of dead you speak of were “over there” on another continent, not here in the USA. That’s the difference this time - the enemy virus is now here in the US, it can kill millions right here if we let it, and we haven’t won yet.

Don’t be a cry baby and worry about the luxuries like club soccer in a crisis. And if you want to make comparisons to a war you don’t understand, then why don’t you go down to a hospital and volunteer in the Covid-19 ward like our brave soldiers volunteered in WW2?

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Olympics are postponed because the athletes can't train.

It is really more because they do not want people from every country congregating in large numbers in one area.

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Is the spring season going to be canceled?

Season will kick off after Memorial Weekend. Run for 4-5 weeks, 2 games each weekend. Showcases for high school ages and they’ll play into July.

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Who’s projecting, sounds like you are? You miss the point and need to open a history book. While it’s important people have the basics, the economy is a secondary consideration while we work to contain and find a treatment for the virus and treat the sick. Club soccer, eating out, and vacations are luxuries and in an emergency are the first things to go.

And where to begin with your distorted views on WW2? The US economy was in a shambles during WW2. Luxuries where non-existent and goods were rationed for the war effort. You were given government quotas on basic items like milk, eggs, bread, etc. The government was hemorrhaging money and the national debt was soaring. There were constant bond drives to raise money just to keep the government from collapsing. The fortunate outcome was that we won and managed to keep the war off our shores. Those millions of dead you speak of were “over there” on another continent, not here in the USA. That’s the difference this time - the enemy virus is now here in the US, it can kill millions right here if we let it, and we haven’t won yet.

Don’t be a cry baby and worry about the luxuries like club soccer in a crisis. And if you want to make comparisons to a war you don’t understand, then why don’t you go down to a hospital and volunteer in the Covid-19 ward like our brave soldiers volunteered in WW2?

You have a myopic view of the economy. Were people employed and earning? Did they have jobs? Yep. Global war and the economy was open. Sure, we produced guns, tanks and planes instead of cars and appliances.

As to the deaths, whether Us citizens died over there or here, death is death. Too bad our society doesn’t understand what that means anymore. Ever since our military went volunteer only, most of our society doesn’t know how to sacrifice. Look up 3%. For the record, I already volunteered and did my time serving. Maybe you should get off your couch and do something to help.

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You have a myopic view of the economy. Were people employed and earning? Did they have jobs? Yep. Global war and the economy was open. Sure, we produced guns, tanks and planes instead of cars and appliances.

As to the deaths, whether Us citizens died over there or here, death is death. Too bad our society doesn’t understand what that means anymore. Ever since our military went volunteer only, most of our society doesn’t know how to sacrifice. Look up 3%. For the record, I already volunteered and did my time serving. Maybe you should get off your couch and do something to help.

We produced guns, tanks and planes and sacrificed lives on the battlefield because that was how we were going to win a war against a hostile military force.

Against an infectious disease, most people staying at home and waiting out the enemy might actually work.

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You have a myopic view of the economy. Were people employed and earning? Did they have jobs? Yep. Global war and the economy was open. Sure, we produced guns, tanks and planes instead of cars and appliances.

As to the deaths, whether Us citizens died over there or here, death is death. Too bad our society doesn’t understand what that means anymore. Ever since our military went volunteer only, most of our society doesn’t know how to sacrifice. Look up 3%. For the record, I already volunteered and did my time serving. Maybe you should get off your couch and do something to help.

Again, a history book would be a good read for you while you are sheltering from the virus. Relatively few Americans were working in factories making guns, tanks, and planes during WW2 and very few were earning a good living during that time. Unlike today where only 1% live on a farm and only 20% of the US population lives in a rural area, 30% lived on a farm and 50% lived in a rural area back in 1941. Very few people lived anywhere near a factory. Because so many young men left to join the war, many family farms that relied on them to do the work failed during that time. Those who worked in the factories were not well paid, in particular women and blacks due to sexism and racism. Most wartime production was carried out in factories that had been taken over by the govt and the govt did not have the money to pay well.

The US stock market lost nearly 50% of its value when the war started in 1941 (to date we’ve lost 25% since Coronavirus started) and did not reach its pre-war high until 1947. There was a severe recession starting in May 1945 when the war ended in Europe as soldiers returned home to find their farms had failed and the nation had to re-tool its factories for peace time. The death and destruction in Europe and much of Asia also meant that the US did not have a market to export its goods.

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Again, a history book would be a good read for you while you are sheltering from the virus. Relatively few Americans were working in factories making guns, tanks, and planes during WW2 and very few were earning a good living during that time. Unlike today where only 1% live on a farm and only 20% of the US population lives in a rural area, 30% lived on a farm and 50% lived in a rural area back in 1941. Very few people lived anywhere near a factory. Because so many young men left to join the war, many family farms that relied on them to do the work failed during that time. Those who worked in the factories were not well paid, in particular women and blacks due to sexism and racism. Most wartime production was carried out in factories that had been taken over by the govt and the govt did not have the money to pay well.

The US stock market lost nearly 50% of its value when the war started in 1941 (to date we’ve lost 25% since Coronavirus started) and did not reach its pre-war high until 1947. There was a severe recession starting in May 1945 when the war ended in Europe as soldiers returned home to find their farms had failed and the nation had to re-tool its factories for peace time. The death and destruction in Europe and much of Asia also meant that the US did not have a market to export its goods.

I know my history just fine and none of the points you make are valid. You are full of fear. The generation that faced WWII and sacrificed greatly for it did it knowing what was needed to succeed and that lives would be lost. Today, you all want to live forever and and think staying home, collecting unemployment and watching netflix is a “sacrifice”.

This entire shutdown is BS. How many have died? How many will die? The US lost over 400k in WW2 over 4 years. Estimates are currently at 100k-200k dead if this outbreak continues to spread. Sounds alot like “we have to destroy the village to save it” to me. There is no US without a functioning economy...

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No choice either way now, seems the people are easily quaranteened without putting up a fight, a dangerous thing to see....no public discorse.
In reality, give everyone until end of April to get supplies, protocols, high risk individuals isolation recomendations in place, then open back up.

You statement Is nonsensical. Supplies from where? What type of protocols? Where are the Hi-Risk individuals going to go? For how long? All this to “open things back up”. Yes the economy is critical.

Perhaps if it was treated like the potential emergency it was and preparations were put in place when this was first recognized and reported by CDC we wouldn’t be in the **** storm that were in now. Unlike 911 which impacted people in New York and other areas mostly, this is going to have a impact on all Americans going forward

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I know my history just fine and none of the points you make are valid. You are full of fear. The generation that faced WWII and sacrificed greatly for it did it knowing what was needed to succeed and that lives would be lost. Today, you all want to live forever and and think staying home, collecting unemployment and watching netflix is a “sacrifice”.

This entire shutdown is BS. How many have died? How many will die? The US lost over 400k in WW2 over 4 years. Estimates are currently at 100k-200k dead if this outbreak continues to spread. Sounds alot like “we have to destroy the village to save it” to me. There is no US without a functioning economy...

If you think the US wouldn’t exist without a functioning economy, then you don’t know much about American history. For much of the country’s history, there have been recessions, depressions, stock crashes, labor strikes, wars, etc. yet we are still standing. What you do understand is that you can’t have your cake and eat it too sometimes.

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If you think the US wouldn’t exist without a functioning economy, then you don’t know much about American history. For much of the country’s history, there have been recessions, depressions, stock crashes, labor strikes, wars, etc. yet we are still standing. What you do understand is that you can’t have your cake and eat it too sometimes.

I'm late to this discussion but what few are understanding is that at no time in American history has the government imposed widespread forced shutdown of the economy. It has no precedent. These are FORCED, INDEFINITE closures. In all past cases of recession, depression, war, bubbles, etc, you had naturally operating capitalist market forces. In this case you have none. You have an intervening force that is forcibly shuttering private business with no end in sight. You have replaced those market forces with an artificial self imposed destruction of an economy. The repercussions of not only the shutdown but the mass fear and panic have not begun to be felt. We could see unemployment dwarf the depression years (~25%). And those unemployment figures are percentages, so because the population is so much bigger now you are talking about a quantity of many many more millions without work than what you saw in the great depression.

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I'm late to this discussion but what few are understanding is that at no time in American history has the government imposed widespread forced shutdown of the economy. It has no precedent. These are FORCED, INDEFINITE closures. In all past cases of recession, depression, war, bubbles, etc, you had naturally operating capitalist market forces. In this case you have none. You have an intervening force that is forcibly shuttering private business with no end in sight. You have replaced those market forces with an artificial self imposed destruction of an economy. The repercussions of not only the shutdown but the mass fear and panic have not begun to be felt. We could see unemployment dwarf the depression years (~25%). And those unemployment figures are percentages, so because the population is so much bigger now you are talking about a quantity of many many more millions without work than what you saw in the great depression.

Thank god you took time off from your economics dissertation to enlighten us. It all makes sense to me now. You shall now be known the economics god of TS! God save the economics god.

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Thank god you took time off from your economics dissertation to enlighten us. It all makes sense to me now. You shall now be known the economics god of TS! God save the economics god.

Says the guy who is preaching about WWII and history books.