Coronavirus

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Looks like the crisis is over. Market keeps going up substantially almost every day, even when there are 6 million + jobless claims again. Things are either great or we're being set up for a major regression and disappointment.

Markets are going up because some ofvthe early hard hit areas are starting to see case numbers improve. They're not going down quite yet but it's no longer growing exponentially. Deaths continue to climb because social distancing measures weren't universally adopted and this disease has long period between exposure to symptoms to worsening symptoms to hospitalization when needed.

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1.8 M was the number I saw yesterday. Weeks ago Pence told the nation 4 M would be shipped that very week. Even if they had been shipping 2M a week for the last 3 weeks...simple math that doesn't add up. Testing availability is improving now, but so much valuable time was lost

# of test kits shipped is not the same thing as number of people tested. Most states are not needing to use all of their test kits as their infection rates are very low, especially the rural states. Even in problem states like NY, upstate infection rates are low and haven't required a lot of testing yet. Same thing with west texas, the central valleys of california and so on.

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Mass testing? Do you know what % of the American public has been tested up to today?

I believe that around 100,000 people a day are being tested. That is mass testing by any standard.

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#7 - Probably many millions more, agreed. Seems everyone knows of someone with similar symptoms prior to the virus being reported, most just weren't critically ill. However, most had lingering symptoms.

I have several physician friends and they all started seeing signs of this in February, especially by mid month. They all had their suspicions but with no testing couldn't confirm. They told patients of their suspicions but how many listened to them and stayed away from others? Probably not many. Mid February is winter break for a lot of K-12 schools, colleg spring breaks start - many travelers carrying it around.

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# of test kits shipped is not the same thing as number of people tested. Most states are not needing to use all of their test kits as their infection rates are very low, especially the rural states. Even in problem states like NY, upstate infection rates are low and haven't required a lot of testing yet. Same thing with west texas, the central valleys of california and so on.

LOL. The rates are very low when you don't test! Maybe try that post again.

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I have several physician friends and they all started seeing signs of this in February, especially by mid month. They all had their suspicions but with no testing couldn't confirm. They told patients of their suspicions but how many listened to them and stayed away from others? Probably not many. Mid February is winter break for a lot of K-12 schools, colleg spring breaks start - many travelers carrying it around.

Yes, unfortunately the test kits deployed by the CDC on February 5th were flawed and had to be recalled. It was a major setback.

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# of test kits shipped is not the same thing as number of people tested. Most states are not needing to use all of their test kits as their infection rates are very low, especially the rural states. Even in problem states like NY, upstate infection rates are low and haven't required a lot of testing yet. Same thing with west texas, the central valleys of california and so on.

You do understand that the key to opening up the country is testing right, and that we need confirmed NEGATIVE results to determine who may be able to resume work and other activities?

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I believe that around 100,000 people a day are being tested. That is mass testing by any standard.

That's not what the CDC is saying

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ing-in-us.html

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You do understand that the key to opening up the country is testing right, and that we need confirmed NEGATIVE results to determine who may be able to resume work and other activities?

We need that plus antibody testing. If more people had it but weren't sure, with antibody testing results they will feel more confident about going back to work, or eating out or going to a movie when things open up. Conversely those who are very vulnerable but haven't had it would know they have to continue to be very careful.

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LOL. The rates are very low when you don't test! Maybe try that post again.

They are testing the people that are showing all the signs of an active virus, like we do with every disease. 100,000 people a day are being tested nationwide.

What we don't do is test people that aren't showing the signs of the coronavirus, just like we don't test people for the Flu, Lyme, Ebola, Zika, West Nile or any other disease either if people don't show symptoms. It's a waste of current resources.

There are companies working on 5-minute at home tests that don't require tying up medical staff and labs and that is when you will see mass testing being done on everyone regardless of their symptoms, or lack thereof.

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That's not what the CDC is saying

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ing-in-us.html

Crap, I added a zero by accident. My bad, still, the number of tests being done dramatically increased once the private labs got involved.

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They are testing the people that are showing all the signs of an active virus, like we do with every disease. 100,000 people a day are being tested nationwide.

What we don't do is test people that aren't showing the signs of the coronavirus, just like we don't test people for the Flu, Lyme, Ebola, Zika, West Nile or any other disease either if people don't show symptoms. It's a waste of current resources.

There are companies working on 5-minute at home tests that don't require tying up medical staff and labs and that is when you will see mass testing being done on everyone regardless of their symptoms, or lack thereof.

You don't seem to understand criteria for safely re-opening the country. You do also realize that + cases can be asymptomatic and as the other poster noted those are important for multiple reasons including as potential antibody sources.

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You don't seem to understand criteria for safely re-opening the country. You do also realize that + cases can be asymptomatic and as the other poster noted those are important for multiple reasons including as potential antibody sources.

Uh, that's why I talked about the 5 minute home test being developed.

We are testing as fast as our medical industry can handle it. It is not a political issue. It's a resource issue. The private companies are pumping out test kits and developing new test kits as fast as they possibly can.

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You do understand that the key to opening up the country is testing right, and that we need confirmed NEGATIVE results to determine who may be able to resume work and other activities?

The problem is that a negative test is only one point in time. You could have already been exposed but not test positive yet. You also could pick it up the next day. Antibody testing is also required especially for anyone who is in close contact with the elderly etc. Healthcare workers that have had it should be the ones working with the most vulnerable populations. Of course that also assumes having it once buys you good immunity (which still isn't clear), or that the virus doesn't mutate (which it could, to either something less or more dangerous)

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Uh, that's why I talked about the 5 minute home test being developed.

We are testing as fast as our medical industry can handle it. It is not a political issue. It's a resource issue. The private companies are pumping out test kits and developing new test kits as fast as they possibly can.

The UK just came out and said the home test they are testing is very flawed. We will get there but we're not there yet. Using flawed tests could be dangerous. It also would require a massive supply chain effort to get it into the hands of citizens. Having quick tests like flu tests in doctor's offices and testing centers can bridge that, but those tests are still not widely available yet ( getting better). Trump doesn't understand you can't flip a switch and get 20M tests out there in a week like you are ordering from Amazon Prime.