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    #76
    Interesting take.

    Futsal is big in lots of places, but no so much in the US, I'll agree with that.

    The whole warmer climate thing not some much though.

    Its essentially street soccer, so its played a lot more in warm places where you can be outside, maybe not as organized. The organization and industrialization of the sport will mess it up somewhat, but engage more kids, so that is a win I guess. US Soccer made an Academy League for Futsal now, so the arms race has begun there as well.....

    Where we may diverge is the needless inclusion of "a for profit club", just to level the playing field, ALLLLLL the clubs are for profit (not capitalized), meaning they are there to make cash and provide jobs for the staff and salaries for the "directors", you are deluded if you think "Non Profits" do not make profit, that is naive and not three dimensional. That's a problem in comprehension here in the US, people take it literally, n-o-n p-r-o-f-i-t, it makes no money. "If" a non profit can qualify for grants because of its status on IRS forms, that's really "profit" aka free money in addition to whatever they drag in, anything more than a town rec program is For Profit conceptually regardless of their tax filings (the town programs should be trying to make more than they spend to reinvest in the program and make it a virtuous cycle of positive growth, haha, that doesnt happen). Non profits are not run to have a zero dollar balance in their accounts and not pay staff.

    The issue with the trip to CA will stand also with the people who tour the 3v3 tourney circuit and go to Disney. Same idea, no real benefit except having fun. For 99.9% of the kids, seriously, its only realistic to look at this as fun. If your kid isn't in the National Camp pool, or on a DA team getting offers to play somewhere, its all about the fun..... Just own that now and life will be easier later.

    If they aren't playing at Wake Forest or the equivalent, then it doesnt matter where they play or if they play at all when it relates to soccer..... sad truth, its only about fun at that point. If you have boys, for those of you who are new to this nonsense, there are only 9.9 scholarships per D1 squad - digest that, not like 43 for football or some insanity like that, just for you no so bright folks, there are 11 kids on the field, I think you can do the math from there. (also, just so you know, start reducing the 9.9 by each foreign player, so if there are SA kids, or Caribbean kids, well, start reducing the 9.9, just be realistic with yourself)

    So I think the problem with youth sports is that parents are not educated going into it and get swept up in all the excitement if their child is a strong athlete or player. I wish the information was there clearly early on so people wouldn't get dragged down a path of delusion...... It can happen with the families going to CA or Disney, its just fun and the kids are still little. The second tier clubs prey on these families and I feel bad for them, but then at same time they irritate the f out of me as they do not even have a clue where their kid actually plays in the big picture. If your kid is in the NEP and they play a club that has DA, lets say Beachside or the Bolts, theyre not playing the same kids, deluded, the club isn't dropping DA kids to beat up your NEP team... You are playing the 4th team.

    Stuff changes between 13 and 15 for boys (girls happens earlier). Some grow, some don't, testosterone is the great equalizer/disruptor around this age for boys. When they're all about the same size (u10/u11)the smaller kids look more agile and skilled, then, they don't grow and suddenly get knocked off the ball and are discarded - from best on squad to not on squad. (we have all seen it). Big strong kids that popped early - same thing, they dominated because they were big and strong, now all of a sudden everyone is big and strong, from top to bottom real fast unless they have foot skills and good mind..... The kids who worked the craft all along and aren't too small or too big, they hold on. (goes to the "OW doesn't develop" guys complaints - he doesn't step back and look at the big picture, kids change - soccer doesn't, thats ok, hes hurt, maybe his kid didn't grow, or was one of the big kids that got clipped)

    Sorry for going off topic. Have a great Monday everyone.

    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Nice memories for the kids but this is the problem with youth sports.

    Clubs in warm weather climates in the US aren’t playing futsal and certainly not out in California. So a for profit group organizes a trip where a bunch of 10 years olds play for a national title on the west coast against the other 6 teams stupid enough to do the same thing. To futhur complicate matters, the CT club pulls from Lower income areas that really can’t afford the trip.

    Makes no sense

    At a certain travel is unavoidable in youth soccer but at least wait until they get past braces and are maybe doing it again it wth college on the line

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      #77
      CFC shrinking by the second, AC CT just took over an entire branch. There are two more branches talking with other clubs to merge out of CFC. Branches becoming frustrated with model and broken CFC promises.

      Ginga will take over that entire area, Bethany location will be new Ginga Facility.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        CFC shrinking by the second, AC CT just took over an entire branch. There are two more branches talking with other clubs to merge out of CFC. Branches becoming frustrated with model and broken CFC promises.

        Ginga will take over that entire area, Bethany location will be new Ginga Facility.
        Funny, I had heard that Ginga was taking over AC CT and BS, along with all CFC branches. Bethany location will be known as Ginga Park, they will add three more fields with lights and be known as Ginga United. Ginga FC will also close the land deal on the Monroe location and run all Ginga academy teams from there. AC Ginga, based in Danbury will be the location/branch primarily for the non-paying premier level players who aren’t capable of making Ginga United or Ginga Academy teams.

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          #79
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Funny, I had heard that Ginga was taking over AC CT and BS, along with all CFC branches. Bethany location will be known as Ginga Park, they will add three more fields with lights and be known as Ginga United. Ginga FC will also close the land deal on the Monroe location and run all Ginga academy teams from there. AC Ginga, based in Danbury will be the location/branch primarily for the non-paying premier level players who aren’t capable of making Ginga United or Ginga Academy teams.
          No more comments please....we have a winner!!

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            #80
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            CFC shrinking by the second, AC CT just took over an entire branch. There are two more branches talking with other clubs to merge out of CFC. Branches becoming frustrated with model and broken CFC promises.

            Ginga will take over that entire area, Bethany location will be new Ginga Facility.
            Here is where you are a new kind of stupid. There is no club that could afford any of he facilities that CFC uses or bought. You’d need tons of teams to make it work and tons of teams Ginga does not have. Neither does AC CT which is losing its funding and will be bye bye soon. The club is about to go under. CFC shrinking is a good thing. Leaves the focus where it should be. One branch per area plus United. The one off branches are crap and help no one.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Here is where you are a new kind of stupid. There is no club that could afford any of he facilities that CFC uses or bought. You’d need tons of teams to make it work and tons of teams Ginga does not have. Neither does AC CT which is losing its funding and will be bye bye soon. The club is about to go under. CFC shrinking is a good thing. Leaves the focus where it should be. One branch per area plus United. The one off branches are crap and help no one.
              There's going to be continued consolidation. Fewer kids playing due to demographic shifts, families moving out of state, families fed up with the club scene, growing popularity of lax. The bigger clubs that can take a few hits and that have something to offer with better coaching and sought after league badges will be fine. The weaker ones that relied heavily on travel-level players and mediocre coaching will struggle and some will shutter. Consolidation is good for club soccer and travel as well. With fewer garbage premier teams more players may stay in travel where they should be, having fun playing, a lot very little cost and commitment.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                There's going to be continued consolidation. Fewer kids playing due to demographic shifts, families moving out of state, families fed up with the club scene, growing popularity of lax. The bigger clubs that can take a few hits and that have something to offer with better coaching and sought after league badges will be fine. The weaker ones that relied heavily on travel-level players and mediocre coaching will struggle and some will shutter. Consolidation is good for club soccer and travel as well. With fewer garbage premier teams more players may stay in travel where they should be, having fun playing, a lot very little cost and commitment.
                Very well said actually. Especially the part about it being a win-win for travel as well as club.

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                  #83
                  Oh please enough with the raffle tickets, everyone knows going in you are going to be taxed $100 around Christmas. Its just part of the cost. For you folks on CFC or FSA, god forbid, Sporting, you pay for uniforms? You are naive if you dont think the house is making cash on those deals.... just saying, call it what you want.... You get taxed too...

                  Now lets go free Mickey Kydes from Norwich Correctional Institute.




                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  like a dinner-dance or raffle tickets?

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