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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'd love to watch my nephew's DA games. Where did you find them posted online?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostJust ask your nephew for a link to the games... if he doesn't know, have the parents ask the coach for a link, as game video review is required of all DA's and is included in the fees.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAll you need to know:
Current ECNL, DAP clubs:
Stars, Scorpions, NEFC, Bolts
All started as nonprofits by volunteers, many of which were independently wealthy already, and scarcely had full time people, just to develop strong soccer players. As they built, most of the decision makers didn't get paid. They've all at some point made decisions that benefited national team level players and hurt financial bottom lines.
That may not seem to be the case, but it is, historically.
Meanwhile, GPS was started for profit from the very beginning, and it would be hard to find any decision they've ever made that has helped the club grow without additionally helping their bottom line. Their unwillingness to create elite pools out of their regions for most of their existence being one of the prime issues. The top players would leave to play for one of the above clubs. This is way before any of these leagues.
Now, you can look at the NPL and State Elite teams today, and you can see that the bottom line may eventually have been hurt by their long time decisions not to pool talent to compete with the top clubs. But that ship has probably sailed. GPS always loses the national team level players too early to make the difference it needs to make at the older age groups.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis is spot on. Brilliant synopsis.
NEFC non-profit status is a joke. How did they (and Stars) raise the money to purchase land and develop it for their fields in Mendon? Here's a hint... club player fees and tournament profits.
Hell, every MLS franchise is "for profit", and they all have fully-funded academies, so "for profit" can't be that bad, unless you're a non-profit with an agenda...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLolz. The trolls from NEFC who love to bash GPS are at it again. While GPS may be "for profit", they provide much more financial aid to families who couldn't otherwise afford to play club soccer than NEFC. In fact, having talked to many NEFC coaches over the years, it's always the same story: unless your kid was a super star, they weren't willing to give financial aid. Meanwhile, GPS gives freely to those in need, regardless of ability. GPS even has an affiliate in Puerto Rico, whom they recently did a fundraiser to provide aid to their soccer families impacted by the recent hurricanes.
NEFC non-profit status is a joke. How did they (and Stars) raise the money to purchase land and develop it for their fields in Mendon? Here's a hint... club player fees and tournament profits.
Hell, every MLS franchise is "for profit", and they all have fully-funded academies, so "for profit" can't be that bad, unless you're a non-profit with an agenda...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLolz. The trolls from NEFC who love to bash GPS are at it again. While GPS may be "for profit", they provide much more financial aid to families who couldn't otherwise afford to play club soccer than NEFC. In fact, having talked to many NEFC coaches over the years, it's always the same story: unless your kid was a super star, they weren't willing to give financial aid. Meanwhile, GPS gives freely to those in need, regardless of ability. GPS even has an affiliate in Puerto Rico, whom they recently did a fundraiser to provide aid to their soccer families impacted by the recent hurricanes.
NEFC non-profit status is a joke. How did they (and Stars) raise the money to purchase land and develop it for their fields in Mendon? Here's a hint... club player fees and tournament profits.
Hell, every MLS franchise is "for profit", and they all have fully-funded academies, so "for profit" can't be that bad, unless you're a non-profit with an agenda...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe only DAP program without player fees in this region is the Revs... that leaves 4 other DAP programs between boys and girls where players pay fees. So yeah, fees...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHaving been associated with both GPS and DA I can tell you pay to play DA is cheaper.
Things to consider:
1) Location of the club to you. Is the travel to practice going to be a big negative for your family? If so, it's ok *as long as* point #2 is understood.
2) Player dedication to the game. If you are ever dragging your player to practice - give it up. Your player has to be motivated to play, don't let it be you pushing your player to do something that he/she isn't 99% happy doing.
3) Realistic expectations for your own player. If your player is 13+, no amount of training is going to get your player from a good player to a phenomenal player. That's the truth. Yes, kids can develop and improve at a faster rate than others with extra work or a coach trainer/coach... But thinking that your player will suddenly stand out from the crowd simply because they were asked to play DA is not realistic. In fact, just read these threads... many suggest the opposite.
4) Look at the clubs coaches and teams... How do they play as a team? Is it kickball or possession type soccer (and yes, I've seen a few Academy teams play kickball style soccer).
5) Where does your player want to go with soccer? Face it, your player is not going further than College soccer -- other than a few select few. So, assume it's not happening (because it isn't). So, then you look to what level of College soccer do you see your player playing at? Consideration must be given to their academic level as well... Which seems like an obvious point, but sometimes, I wonder.
I could go on but I won't... just things to consider.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTaking Revs out of the equation, for pay to play clubs... They are all going to be fairly equal... If people are worried about a few hundred dollars here or there.... find another sport/hobby (i.e. hiking, maybe?). Lol.
Things to consider:
1) Location of the club to you. Is the travel to practice going to be a big negative for your family? If so, it's ok *as long as* point #2 is understood.
2) Player dedication to the game. If you are ever dragging your player to practice - give it up. Your player has to be motivated to play, don't let it be you pushing your player to do something that he/she isn't 99% happy doing.
3) Realistic expectations for your own player. If your player is 13+, no amount of training is going to get your player from a good player to a phenomenal player. That's the truth. Yes, kids can develop and improve at a faster rate than others with extra work or a coach trainer/coach... But thinking that your player will suddenly stand out from the crowd simply because they were asked to play DA is not realistic. In fact, just read these threads... many suggest the opposite.
4) Look at the clubs coaches and teams... How do they play as a team? Is it kickball or possession type soccer (and yes, I've seen a few Academy teams play kickball style soccer).
5) Where does your player want to go with soccer? Face it, your player is not going further than College soccer -- other than a few select few. So, assume it's not happening (because it isn't). So, then you look to what level of College soccer do you see your player playing at? Consideration must be given to their academic level as well... Which seems like an obvious point, but sometimes, I wonder.
I could go on but I won't... just things to consider.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post6) If you're son is playing for GPS MA METRO BOSTON ELITE WHITE - BOYS 04 and you're paying more than an Academy parent you should probably hit yourself in the face with a frying pan. And repeat. And repeat again.
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