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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOk big guy. First off ... myself or the coach reported NO ONE, and don't intend to. Secondly, unless your kid was playing down an age group or not really on the roster, I don't have one issue with what you did. I'm talking about rules that are in place for a reason (age divisions and team stacking rules) that are constantly thwarted by coaches simply to win games. Those are the people who I have a problem with.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCause you are teaching your kids cheating is ok, and there is a safety issue at play. And if it's only indoor why do you feel the need to cheat to win, it's only indoor afterall.
I love the safety issue. It is soccer, not football. If you played against older/different kids and won, we never would have heard from you. Wuss.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCheating? Please. Lemme guess. Dad coach. Right? Dime a dozen. Your feelings got hurt. When your team was getting killed, it became about you. Get a life.
I love the safety issue. It is soccer, not football. If you played against older/different kids and won, we never would have heard from you. Wuss.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy not go to the league/facility and bring up your concerns? If it is cheating, address it.
Or you can come on here and moan. Your call.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm talking soccer issues on a soccer board. I suppose we could talk more ECNL vs NPL or D3 vs D1 if you want, but I thought it would be a different topic to discuss since I saw it happen again today and it was on my mind. And If the coach of our team wants to address it, he will. Because it's indoor we don't, but I still think it is really lame other teams do this.
Let's talk about overinflated Futsal balls. That is a great topic.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWrong wrong and wrong. Not a coach and our U11 team has actually won most of the games (even against the U13 players), but I'm sorry there is no reason a 13 year old 7th grader should be playing a 10 year old 5th grader, unless the 10 year old is playing up on purpose.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post"we". Gave yourself up there. A little too invested in indoor with your kid. Probably your first kid. Calm down, it is a long ride.
Let's talk about overinflated Futsal balls. That is a great topic.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostClubs like the Scorpions/Breakers routinely push their better teams up and you see them playing in older brackets in far more competitive situations than indoor soccer so there is a very clear history in this state for this sort of thing. The idea that a facility might move an older team down to cool off a bracket is hardly unheard of and in fact should be applauded.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMoving an older team down an age bracket is unheard of indoor or outdoor. What are you smoking?
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Its the facilities rule, and every coach is given a copy of them, when they sign up. It usually requires a signature. The coach should be communicating with the players/parents, and know who is playing on other teams, and what division, along with the date the facility uses as a cut off. US soccer uses the January 1, and USYSA/USCS use August 1, and thats the responsibility of the coach. I agree things like that ate honest mistakes, but really is the lack of follow through at either the facility, or Head Coach level. Not the kid, and they are the ones ultimately punished, and the adults just feel bad. There really should be more wiggle room in these types of situations, but unfortunately those rules need to exist, because of coaches who will purposely skirt the rules for an indoor session 1 trophy, by playing intelligible players. Plus they know it's the first thing a lawyer/judge will ask for when that parent sues the facility for the teams money back. I do however wish there was more understanding when it comes to the kid who is a few days/weeks over the cut off, and is in the grade of the kids on the team. There are more than a few, and doesnt make sense to me. I think this could be handled different with some communication, and transparency.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWrong wrong and wrong. Not a coach and our U11 team has actually won most of the games (even against the U13 players), but I'm sorry there is no reason a 13 year old 7th grader should be playing a 10 year old 5th grader, unless the 10 year old is playing up on purpose.
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