Stars vs Breakers ECNL

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Try "winning any..".

Poor GPS. They feel left out in this conversation and they're forcing themselves in and they are embarrassing their people.

Not sure why you said GPS is an outcast in Mass Youth Soccer. GPS is dominate on the boys side. In the next 2 years their girls side will catchup to the top 3.

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Not sure why you said GPS is an outcast in Mass Youth Soccer. GPS is dominate on the boys side. In the next 2 years their girls side will catchup to the top 3.

GPS is now the largest non-town based soccer club in the state and it is rather amusing how their impact gets so arrogantly dismissed.

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Not to dump on the accomplishment because it was extraordinary but let's be somewhat objective. Soccer is like boxing now in that every promoter has their own championship. That team won two watered down championships during the middle school years when a lot of the major competition still is in a developmental mode. At those ages teams with holes can win because all it typically takes is 1-2 dominant players. Let's see if they can repeat the task at either U15 or U16 when most of the clubs around the country merge their best players together and those holes represent places other teams can exploit before we go anointing what NEFC has been able to accomplish as the model.

Bwaaaahhh!! Typical a-hole response. When they got to the national finals last year, they played a bunch of ECNL teams, but that wasn't good enough. Now we are saying both USYS and NPL are watered down. So are you saying that had they won the ECNL national championship, it would validate it?? Do you know how pathetic you sound? On top of that NPL teams have beaten ECNL teams during the GPS tournament, so should we be saying that anyone that wins an ECNL championship didn't really deserve it as the league is watered down. What a moron.

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GPS is now the largest non-town based soccer club in the state and it is rather amusing how their impact gets so arrogantly dismissed.

Because TS is dominated by parents of girls, and GPS has terrible girls teams. They can't attract top talent, and if they accidentally get a talented player at a younger age, she leaves as soon as a spot opens up at NEFC or Stars. Just because they have signed up the most players and collected money from them doesn't mean that they are developing good teams or players. It just means that they're good at selling and collecting $.

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Sadly, I agree with this statement. Occasionally we get a team that hits the mark, but for the most part the truly elite are spread out among the big clubs, and a few of the mom nd pops. The mom and pop player usually drifts away. I don't know for sure why, but my guess would be the competition level isn't high enough in training. The big clubs try to recruit each others stud, and they all end up chasing their tails. The question I ask, every time this conversation comes up, is there a club in Mass positioned to train these players seperate from the elite team close to their homes, and then be able to come together for training and elite league/tournaments? Right now the closest we have is GPS. They have figured something out. They now have local training/teams, that allow the top players to come together to compete in the NPL, and tournaments. Looks a lot like a club and country model. The coaches are following a curriculum for every level, and age. Not much rogue coaching going on over there. They are so far ahead of the rest right now, that I don't think the other 3 can catch up.

GPS HAS figured it out and NEFC is following right behind them with their regionalized approach and their special programming like RDC and IDP. That is why they are now the two largest clubs in the state. Families get what they are offering and can see where it benefits them. From a club point of view, the key is expanding the base of the pyramid to capture a huge number of players and then offer them a pathway to the pinnacle of the pyramid. Where the two ECNL are faltering is they are not expanding their bases fast enough to keep pace with these two and the pathway to their top teams is suspect at best.

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GPS HAS figured it out and NEFC is following right behind them with their regionalized approach and their special programming like RDC and IDP. That is why they are now the two largest clubs in the state. Families get what they are offering and can see where it benefits them. From a club point of view, the key is expanding the base of the pyramid to capture a huge number of players and then offer them a pathway to the pinnacle of the pyramid. Where the two ECNL are faltering is they are not expanding their bases fast enough to keep pace with these two and the pathway to their top teams is suspect at best.

Stars opened up a new facility in Lancaster and will dominate Mass soccer. Breakers will fade away like their older teams that have no talent. The longer a kid stays with FM the worse they get.

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Stars opened up a new facility in Lancaster and will dominate Mass soccer. Breakers will fade away like their older teams that have no talent. The longer a kid stays with FM the worse they get.

Love these thread revivals after a week.

BTNT, is the research you said you were doing using TS published anywhere yet? I think many here would like to take a look at it.

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