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    Changing the Game project

    http://changingthegameproject.com/th...-youth-sports/

    It is an interesting read...

    #2
    Not really. It is all just a rehash of a bunch of tired old cliché's about how parents get in the way of their own children. Funny how the solution always seems to come back to getting out of the way of coaches and letting them do their thing. In a youth sports world where coaches are now more entrepreneurs than benevolent volunteers that isn't the answer either.

    The fallacy in all of these tired arguments is you can't beat nature. Athletic success is a function of the body and abilities an athlete is born with combined with the motivation they develop. All parents AND coaches can actually do is influence the end product not make it. The truth is both groups typically do more to screw things up than make them happen.

    What really has happened in sports is we have tried to replace what is essentially natural selection with "programs" and "systems" that often end up just increasing participation numbers and passing them through on a conveyor belt (often with profit as the prime motive) instead of narrowing down the herd to the best and brightest and focusing resources on them.

    Until we fix this "everyone gets an at bat" mentality in sports and get back to supporting the ones who bring the most and want it the most all articles like this do is support a never ending blame game. In the end who an time for any of it.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Not really. It is all just a rehash of a bunch of tired old cliché's about how parents get in the way of their own children. Funny how the solution always seems to come back to getting out of the way of coaches and letting them do their thing. In a youth sports world where coaches are now more entrepreneurs than benevolent volunteers that isn't the answer either.

      The fallacy in all of these tired arguments is you can't beat nature. Athletic success is a function of the body and abilities an athlete is born with combined with the motivation they develop. All parents AND coaches can actually do is influence the end product not make it. The truth is both groups typically do more to screw things up than make them happen.

      What really has happened in sports is we have tried to replace what is essentially natural selection with "programs" and "systems" that often end up just increasing participation numbers and passing them through on a conveyor belt (often with profit as the prime motive) instead of narrowing down the herd to the best and brightest and focusing resources on them.

      Until we fix this "everyone gets an at bat" mentality in sports and get back to supporting the ones who bring the most and want it the most all articles like this do is support a never ending blame game. In the end who an time for any of it.
      Agreed, if the goal is to nurture and develop the elite at the top of the pyramid. Unfortunately, there is much less $ to be made in weeding out paying customers with players that won't make it past HS JV, let alone Varsity, D3 college, D1 bench warmers, etc.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Not really. It is all just a rehash of a bunch of tired old cliché's about how parents get in the way of their own children. Funny how the solution always seems to come back to getting out of the way of coaches and letting them do their thing. In a youth sports world where coaches are now more entrepreneurs than benevolent volunteers that isn't the answer either.

        The fallacy in all of these tired arguments is you can't beat nature. Athletic success is a function of the body and abilities an athlete is born with combined with the motivation they develop. All parents AND coaches can actually do is influence the end product not make it. The truth is both groups typically do more to screw things up than make them happen.

        What really has happened in sports is we have tried to replace what is essentially natural selection with "programs" and "systems" that often end up just increasing participation numbers and passing them through on a conveyor belt (often with profit as the prime motive) instead of narrowing down the herd to the best and brightest and focusing resources on them.

        Until we fix this "everyone gets an at bat" mentality in sports and get back to supporting the ones who bring the most and want it the most all articles like this do is support a never ending blame game. In the end who an time for any of it.
        Couldn't you say that Higher Education in America has also evolved in the same direction ?
        Costs are up, grades are up, 1/2 don't finish , etc. Meanwhile , since the 1970's , many in the rest of the world have passsed us by Academically.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Agreed, if the goal is to nurture and develop the elite at the top of the pyramid. Unfortunately, there is much less $ to be made in weeding out paying customers with players that won't make it past HS JV, let alone Varsity, D3 college, D1 bench warmers, etc.
          Doesn't it come down to understanding the goal and then measuring the process accordingly. The no child left behind legislation is a perfect example of the problems. Towns are forced to spend sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars educating a single child with special needs and that ends up taking resources away from everyone. I wouldn't suggest that the special needs not be educated but the expectation that we should educate them to the same level as the most gifted and talented is not the answer either. Shouldn't realizing what we are and focusing in on the particular strengths that make us a productive member of society be more the goal than everyone gets their equal share?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Agreed, if the goal is to nurture and develop the elite at the top of the pyramid. Unfortunately, there is much less $ to be made in weeding out paying customers with players that won't make it past HS JV, let alone Varsity, D3 college, D1 bench warmers, etc.
            But really, at the end of the day so what? It's not your money, nor mine. Take any extra curricular activity that costs money, and you will find very, very few kids that truly take that training to the next level.

            All this innuendo about only the best kids should be competing / participating in X activity sounds more and more like the old Soviet bloc model.

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              #7
              Oh boy. What's yet another repeat chapter at this point? Knock yourself silly.

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                #8
                Originally posted by perspective View Post
                Oh boy. What's yet another repeat chapter at this point? Knock yourself silly.
                Every active board on this forum is a repeat chapter.

                We should just repost everything from spring 2013,2012,2011,2010......

                Boring.......

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Couldn't you say that Higher Education in America has also evolved in the same direction ?
                  Costs are up, grades are up, 1/2 don't finish , etc. Meanwhile , since the 1970's , many in the rest of the world have passsed us by Academically.
                  You could not say that in this thread. Massachusetts tour schools/students rank highly amongst other states and countries.

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                    #10
                    Typo should be
                    You could not say that in this thread. In Massachusetts our schools/students rank highly amongst other states and countries

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Typo should be
                      You could not say that in this thread. In Massachusetts our schools/students rank highly amongst other states and countries
                      Not compared to the early seventies.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Typo should be
                        You could not say that in this thread. In Massachusetts our schools/students rank highly amongst other states and countries
                        People pay less attention to education than soccer in this state.
                        Just look at the communication skills on display here.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Not compared to the early seventies.
                          Half the counties we compete with today were living in the stone age in the seventies a comparison would mean nothing.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            People pay less attention to education than soccer in this state.
                            Just look at the communication skills on display here.
                            We're getting closer to European standards here. Get off the way!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              People pay less attention to education than soccer in this state.
                              Just look at the communication skills on display here.
                              That is ludicrous.

                              The frequent contributors to this message board are club insiders. The overwhelming majority of soccer parents value education first and frequently run into issues when soccer interferes with studies.

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