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Both of Weymouth's all league kids have graduated. The issue with Weymouth will be who can score goals. The leading scorer graduated and the 2nd leading scorer is not playing in the fall due to hockey. They should be strong in the back, although they lost their CB and GK so who knows.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBoth of Weymouth's all league kids have graduated. The issue with Weymouth will be who can score goals. The leading scorer graduated and the 2nd leading scorer is not playing in the fall due to hockey. They should be strong in the back, although they lost their CB and GK so who knows.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostPoor team chemistry has been a bigger problem than lack of goal scoring. If the coach can fix this the wins will come at s higher level than the past couple of seasons. Given who some of the "leaders" are expected to be, unfortunately the it looks like it may be more of the same
Biggest issue with the coach is he is so soft, I have yet to see him rip into any players during games or post games. That role has been left to the assistant coaches but players seemingly have sensed a softness which is where the change of attitude has come in. after a bad loss they don't run, they don't have punishments, they get a easy session or the day off and then "talk" about it. Glory day reference from when I played in 2003 if we lost we ran and ran and ran and ran
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostPoor team chemistry has been a bigger problem than lack of goal scoring. If the coach can fix this the wins will come at s higher level than the past couple of seasons. Given who some of the "leaders" are expected to be, unfortunately the it looks like it may be more of the same
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHate to beat a dead horse but the big difference in players now vs the past is players now feel its ok if they lose or tie as long as they played well rather than back in the "glory days" if you won you played well and if you lost or tied it wasn't good enough and you were expecting some hardass trainings to correct the mistakes....
Biggest issue with the coach is he is so soft, I have yet to see him rip into any players during games or post games. That role has been left to the assistant coaches but players seemingly have sensed a softness which is where the change of attitude has come in. after a bad loss they don't run, they don't have punishments, they get a easy session or the day off and then "talk" about it. Glory day reference from when I played in 2003 if we lost we ran and ran and ran and ran
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA reason to be bullish about Weymouth would be if the post about several new players, one over-age and needing a waiver, coming in were true. For now, we have to assume this is the annual "rumor" that someone posts here.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo idea about the player? I am curious of what the age limit is? Never heard that before.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMIAA has an age limit, something like can't be 19 before September 1. If a student reaches the threshold age before the cut-off date, they have to apply for a waiver from the rule. Such waivers are routinely granted.
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To be fair to the Weymouth coach. When he's had the talent the team has made deep runs. Maybe he doesn't push them farther then expected but I don't think he's the problem. There has been a clear drop off in talent the past couple seasons.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTo be fair to the Weymouth coach. When he's had the talent the team has made deep runs. Maybe he doesn't push them farther then expected but I don't think he's the problem. There has been a clear drop off in talent the past couple seasons.
Perfect example already stated above is players have had attitude issues and think its ok to lose if they play well. That right there if true is a huge reflection on leadership and the message he instills into the team. Do you think Shoff or Brock would be ok if they lost a game to an inferior opponent even if they played well? absolutely not. the program has lost its identity under the current coach and that's something that desperately needs to change.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo basically if he doesn't have talent he can't win? doesn't sound like that great of a coach if he can't push and motivate his players to work hard and improve to make up for the lack of talent the past few years. What makes a coach great is being able to more with less.
Perfect example already stated above is players have had attitude issues and think its ok to lose if they play well. That right there if true is a huge reflection on leadership and the message he instills into the team. Do you think Shoff or Brock would be ok if they lost a game to an inferior opponent even if they played well? absolutely not. the program has lost its identity under the current coach and that's something that desperately needs to change.
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The old saying applies: a good coach is one that can take her players and beat your team, and take your players and beat her team.
Most of what we call a good coach is an average coach who has been fortunate to catch an above-average run of players. Especially among high schools like those in the BSC, in which they can't recruit for athletics.
MIAA soccer committee believes that size of enrollment has a significant bearing on a team's ability, because on that basis they have created 4 divisions. If you believe in divisions, then a school like Weymouth, with over 1,000 boys, should AVERAGE OVER TIME being the 4th-5th best team in the South (behind Brockton, BC and New Bedford, about equal with Durfee of Fall River). That's right on the border of being a losing south quarterfinalist (effectively teams 5-8) and a winning south quarterfinalist (teams 1-4).
For Weymouth, objectively then, whenever they are eliminated before the south quarters, it's a bad year. Whenever they are eliminated in the south quarters, it's perhaps unfortunate, but only a problem if it becomes repetitive. And whenever they surpass the south quarters, it's a successful year. The history on MIAA's site shows:
2015: eliminated in south quarters = ? (better than the prior 2 years; 2nd-farthest advance of the last 5 years)
2014: eliminated before south quarters = bad year
2013: eliminated before south quarters = bad year
2012: eliminated in south final = successful year
2011: eliminated before south quarters = bad year
Don't dissect each individual year, because you have to look at it over time, with more data points. If we listed the 10-20 years prior to those above, it would show that Weymouth's had a healthy proportion of "successful" years. But when they reached the South semis several years in a row, it was probably because they hit a good run of players, not because of a superior coach. And by not getting past the south quarters in 4 of the past 5 years, it's probably because they've hit a run where they didn't have quite as talented players, not because of an inferior coach.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe old saying applies: a good coach is one that can take her players and beat your team, and take your players and beat her team.
Most of what we call a good coach is an average coach who has been fortunate to catch an above-average run of players. Especially among high schools like those in the BSC, in which they can't recruit for athletics.
MIAA soccer committee believes that size of enrollment has a significant bearing on a team's ability, because on that basis they have created 4 divisions. If you believe in divisions, then a school like Weymouth, with over 1,000 boys, should AVERAGE OVER TIME being the 4th-5th best team in the South (behind Brockton, BC and New Bedford, about equal with Durfee of Fall River). That's right on the border of being a losing south quarterfinalist (effectively teams 5-8) and a winning south quarterfinalist (teams 1-4).
For Weymouth, objectively then, whenever they are eliminated before the south quarters, it's a bad year. Whenever they are eliminated in the south quarters, it's perhaps unfortunate, but only a problem if it becomes repetitive. And whenever they surpass the south quarters, it's a successful year. The history on MIAA's site shows:
2015: eliminated in south quarters = ? (better than the prior 2 years; 2nd-farthest advance of the last 5 years)
2014: eliminated before south quarters = bad year
2013: eliminated before south quarters = bad year
2012: eliminated in south final = successful year
2011: eliminated before south quarters = bad year
Don't dissect each individual year, because you have to look at it over time, with more data points. If we listed the 10-20 years prior to those above, it would show that Weymouth's had a healthy proportion of "successful" years. But when they reached the South semis several years in a row, it was probably because they hit a good run of players, not because of a superior coach. And by not getting past the south quarters in 4 of the past 5 years, it's probably because they've hit a run where they didn't have quite as talented players, not because of an inferior coach.
Lets be real you can't even compare the two coaches
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How Many Starters do teams Return to the best of peoples knowledge?
Braintree?
Needham?
Weymouth?
Brookline?
Framingham?
Wellesley?
Natick?
Walpole?
Milton?
Just curious to how returning players could impact this upcoming season... Also did any teams lose players to Academy?
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