Originally posted by Unregistered
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Yes and no. First, if you haven’t been verbally invited by the target school coach, he may never see you since players are broken down into groups with invites getting special attention. Second, if you arent in a top league (DA, ECNL, NPL) or on a championship HS team, then you’re chances of having a coach take a gamble on you are slimmer even if you do really well at ID camp. There reputation is on the line and it’s easier to defend picking a good story over no story if you end up flaming out. In short, you want to stack the odds in your favor rather than just hope you are noticed. -
The recruiting from HS school play is almost non-existent unless you are from a top prep school that actively recruits for soccer; Bridgton Academy, Worcester Academy.
Recruiting will happen in tournaments/showcases. It might start with a highlight video, and will certainly be bolstered by your academic resume.
If you want to go to a school with a good soccer team, you better be a starter on your team regardless of whether it is DA or not, especially if you team isn't in the top of the league standings.
If you want to go to a strong academic school, don't show up with B's and an average SAT or ACT score......unless you are one of the best soccer players in the region.....or of a special interest group, perhaps even an illegal immigrant the came to this country via caravan....in other words you need to be something special beyond being an American citizen....well, you know what I mean.Comment
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You need the hook to get them to watch you - that comes from level of league play, your "resume" (won't be much of one if you're in DA) and highlight video, as well as phone calls by the player and coach(es). Certain clubs and club coaches have much better reputations than others.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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the constant theme of "depends" applies here. it depends on what level you are targeting. If you're targeting higher level programs those "select" accolades help. But don't discount HS awards - a player that's named All State as a frosh and All NE as a sophomore is far more interesting than someone who gets MVP for MA region X as a junior.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Yup. This is true of all Resumes and soccer is no different. A resume is merely a method of signaling one is worth another look (or not). Depending on who you are communicating with you should always mention Team Achievements First (State Champs), Individual Recognition from team play (MVP, All New England), Individual Selections (YNT Camp, ID2, ODP Regionals), any 3rd party endorsements (Globe All-Scholastic, Top Drawer Ranking, etc.), Character recognition (Captain, League Sportsmanship) and if appropriate (be careful here) honors from other sports and academics - certified athlete, and "admissible" are good things for coaches to know.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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For the 4 ID clinics my kid has been to (2 D1 and 2 D2) there has been only one group for scrimmages. There are small sided groups first, but they all rotate and all coaches see all groups, and then they all come together for 11 v 11 scrimmage.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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That's been my experience with girls as well. All college-specific (Patriot, Ivy) and all seemed to rotate. Clearly there were special invites and Genpop attendees but effort was made to give appearance of equal exposureOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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And my two kids (one boy, one girl) have seen plenty of the opposite. I think the rule of thumb is you want to make sure you are on their radar before going in because there's no telling. Give yourself every advantage you can.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Size of the event will be a big determinant. Some are as small as 30-40 players so splitting isn't really required. But many are much bigger than that. In that case that's when you want to be in group of most interest, even if they do move players around. ^ above post is right - try and stack your deck as much as you canComment
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ID Camps are really just cattle call auditions. You all need to recognize that if your kid doesn't stand out in a crowd or otherwise find a way to draw attention to their ability it's all a waste of time. That really comes down to your targeting. You should only be sending your kid to events where you are pretty sure that they will stand out in the crowd. Big events with multiple levels of players in attendance are exactly the sort you want to stay away from unless you are very confident your kid will be one of the top few in attendance. Not saying that its fair, but it is human nature to compare kids lower levels against the higher level ones and that does the lower level kid a disservice.Comment
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If you target the right colleges, your kid should stand out.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Seems parents are too often overestimate the importance of the patch and deluding themselves about the talent. Everyone along the way having a financial incentive to let that happen deserves a good portion of the blame.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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This is absolutely true, due to the huge disparity in quality from team to team around these leagues. For years, an ECNL patch from "east meadow" meant that the kid had a pulse and her parents could afford the tab. An ECNL patch from "PDA" meant that the kid had to be selected ahead of a huge # of kids and was almost guaranteed to be playing with and against good players in practice and getting decent coaching.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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BTNT, STFU already. Enough. You are insufferable.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Bingo. When you don't all you do is enrich the coaches personal bank balance.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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