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    Damn German Coaches...nicht mir. ..

    USMNT was lucky the game went into overtime.

    Mexico with better finishing wins handily 4-1


    Our Olympic team loses to Honduras 2-0 and now must win 2 play in games to go to next year's Olympics


    Both teams are coached by Germans...
    Time to go back to Arena/Bradley American coach

    #2
    We don't have any significant players playing in Europe, Africa, South America, or anywhere (MLS does not count ..yet). What can you really expect. Still duck Corneal Klink for cutting Donovan. We are still losers and he gets sacked soon

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      We don't have any significant players playing in Europe, Africa, South America, or anywhere (MLS does not count ..yet). What can you really expect. Still duck Corneal Klink for cutting Donovan. We are still losers and he gets sacked soon
      Is not about the pro coaches.is about who coach our kids. I said so many times in TS. If we continue having Jamaicans, Colombians, English, Venezuelans, etc... Coaches from countries that historically never accomplish ANYTHING, we will continue fail at the pro level. That's the biggest reason why. Whether you agree or not.. That's the main reason

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        USMNT was lucky the game went into overtime.

        Mexico with better finishing wins handily 4-1


        Our Olympic team loses to Honduras 2-0 and now must win 2 play in games to go to next year's Olympics


        Both teams are coached by Germans...
        Time to go back to Arena/Bradley American coach
        You ever think it may be the players!

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Is not about the pro coaches.is about who coach our kids. I said so many times in TS. If we continue having Jamaicans, Colombians, English, Venezuelans, etc... Coaches from countries that historically never accomplish ANYTHING, we will continue fail at the pro level. That's the biggest reason why. Whether you agree or not.. That's the main reason
          Agree but without them all we have is a bunch of daddy coaches. Let's face it, soccer is not an American sport yet. We are now just barely starting to get the hang of it. it may take another generation or so to establish a soccer culture in this country.

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            #6
            sack the German coaches and go back in time idiots...

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              #7
              This post is for those who understand a bit about this game - JK had both lines of 4 behind the line of the ball conceding the ball and possession to the Mexicans. The U.S felt inferior to Mexico from the get go conceding the field and initiative every time. Bad coaching...

              We never moved out of our own half for most of the game except for a counter here and there. When you play this way, this is what happens !

              Mexico played better and the U.S with speculative tactics from a coach (Klinsmann) who always feels inferior to any other country except some tiny little Caribbean Is lost. Not much more to add....

              Klinsmann needs to step aside and let somebody else who can empower our players and make them feel better than they are. His tactics were all wrong today and his scouting abilities even worse !!!

              Please resign JK, you were once a decent player but coaching is not your thing...

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                #8
                OK I understand a little.

                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                This post is for those who understand a bit about this game - JK had both lines of 4 behind the line of the ball conceding the ball and possession to the Mexicans. The U.S felt inferior to Mexico from the get go conceding the field and initiative every time. Bad coaching...

                We never moved out of our own half for most of the game except for a counter here and there. When you play this way, this is what happens !

                Mexico played better and the U.S with speculative tactics from a coach (Klinsmann) who always feels inferior to any other country except some tiny little Caribbean Is lost. Not much more to add....

                Klinsmann needs to step aside and let somebody else who can empower our players and make them feel better than they are. His tactics were all wrong today and his scouting abilities even worse !!!

                Please resign JK, you were once a decent player but coaching is not your thing...
                Well, to play at this level, you need players that play fast in the head not just physically.
                You can say all you want, about the back line, midfielders, forwards. How JK sets them up. The reality is that he does not have players like a Xavi, Iniesta Silva any south american that i s playing in Europe.
                We have the players from the old system. Which played very hard with hear and grit. But they were not technically sound like players above and JK has to do the best with what he has. In the past we never outpossed anybody and the teams we played were weak in Concacaf, that is not the case today. No one in this country or world for that matter would have predicted that in a Word ld Cup group that had Italy, England, Uruguay, and Costa Rica. That Costa Rica would win. But they did. The world has improved in soccer. Argentia
                and Brazilian coaches have been training and teaching their ways for the last 10-15 years in all of these so called non soccer superpowers and the gap has closed everywhere, in Europe is the same thing.
                The problem is the speed of play, now JK is trying to address the problem at the grass roots with developmental academies and is getting better. The 98's have done very well against soccer superpowers, the 99's and so forth should see more technical players coming up the pipe. And we are attacking and possession is getting better. You have to give it sometime for our culture to accept the change. Our Scouting network is getting better but has a long way to go in identifying the technical player that might be short and weak looking at age 13,14 and gets overlooked for the early developer 6'1" athlete that over runs everybody.
                All Concacaf nations that went to world cup did well.
                Holland struggled with Mexico.
                It is a different world today, the athletes are bigger and faster in some areas but are also more technical. We need to be fair and compare apples to apples when we criticize a coach for when he does not have all of the tools to do the job.
                We need to wait until the new generations of 98's and beyond get to play for the U.S. and we will see a difference.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Well, to play at this level, you need players that play fast in the head not just physically.
                  You can say all you want, about the back line, midfielders, forwards. How JK sets them up. The reality is that he does not have players like a Xavi, Iniesta Silva any south american that i s playing in Europe.
                  We have the players from the old system. Which played very hard with hear and grit. But they were not technically sound like players above and JK has to do the best with what he has. In the past we never outpossed anybody and the teams we played were weak in Concacaf, that is not the case today. No one in this country or world for that matter would have predicted that in a Word ld Cup group that had Italy, England, Uruguay, and Costa Rica. That Costa Rica would win. But they did. The world has improved in soccer. Argentia
                  and Brazilian coaches have been training and teaching their ways for the last 10-15 years in all of these so called non soccer superpowers and the gap has closed everywhere, in Europe is the same thing.
                  The problem is the speed of play, now JK is trying to address the problem at the grass roots with developmental academies and is getting better. The 98's have done very well against soccer superpowers, the 99's and so forth should see more technical players coming up the pipe. And we are attacking and possession is getting better. You have to give it sometime for our culture to accept the change. Our Scouting network is getting better but has a long way to go in identifying the technical player that might be short and weak looking at age 13,14 and gets overlooked for the early developer 6'1" athlete that over runs everybody.
                  All Concacaf nations that went to world cup did well.
                  Holland struggled with Mexico.
                  It is a different world today, the athletes are bigger and faster in some areas but are also more technical. We need to be fair and compare apples to apples when we criticize a coach for when he does not have all of the tools to do the job.
                  We need to wait until the new generations of 98's and beyond get to play for the U.S. and we will see a difference.
                  We will not see a difference. You mention waiting on the 98"s to come through. Our young kids up to u18 have always competed well internationally. Even dating back 10 years ago. It is after age 16-18 that we always start to drop drastically and dramatically. In other countries this age is turning pro or set up in pro academies or reserve teams. Our kids are stuck in da or college. There lies a huge part of the problem.

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                    #10
                    Let's fire the Germans and hire us some Mexican coaches! Plus, we'll save money as everyone tells me that Mexicans are great cheap labor!!!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Let's fire the Germans and hire us some Mexican coaches! Plus, we'll save money as everyone tells me that Mexicans are great cheap labor!!!
                      Ok mr trump , now go back and fix your stupid hair . Talking soccer here

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                        #12
                        I have never seen a US national team played like that , it was crap the whole time defending as if they were playing Germany. This coach sucks has to go Donovan is right

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Let's fire the Germans and hire us some Mexican coaches! Plus, we'll save money as everyone tells me that Mexicans are great cheap labor!!!
                          Absolutely, talk about a team with stability... plenty of former Mexican National Team coaches to choose from...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Absolutely, talk about a team with stability... plenty of former Mexican National Team coaches to choose from...
                            jurgen does it again.complete garbage ,how are we going to compete against big soccer nations when we can win in concacaf?

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                              #15
                              "The experiment with Klinsmann was a failure. We were only working on our fitness in training. He didn't care much for tactical stuff," he wrote. "It was up to the players to come together before a match and discuss how we were going to play.

                              ''All the players knew after about eight weeks that it was not going to work out with Klinsmann. The remainder of that campaign was nothing but limiting the damage." - Philipp Lahm

                              This is all I think about when I hear Klinsmann and coaching. It has been reported he still does the same thing today. He isn't a good coach unless he has someone who can run training and do the tactical work for him like Jogi Low. He should be the CEO of USA soccer, come up with a plan/philosophy and hire coaches who can implement the plan.

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