IS DA Broken?

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Go DA or stay home!

glad you think US Soccer is producing better players and it's a direct result from DA..Please name a few?

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Regardless of which DA program you are from, the DA is recognized as the best training ground for soccer at the college and US National Team level. So, for all those who "choose" to play High School instead - see article posted a few days ago:

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...d-cup_aid37753

•Twenty players on the roster are products of the Development Academy: Adams (New York Red Bulls Academy),Arellano (LA Galaxy Academy), Barbir (Players Development Academy), Calvillo(Real So Cal), da Silva (Orlando City SC Academy), de la Torre (Nomads SC & San Diego Surf), Dieterich (Real Salt Lake AZ),Gallardo (Nomads SC), Lopez (LA Galaxy Academy), McCabe(Players Development Academy), Nelson(Internationals), Olosunde (New York Red Bulls Academy), Perez (Chivas USA),C. Pulisic (PA Classics), W. Pulisic (Richmond United), Silva(Players Development Academy), Trusty(Philadelphia Union), Velela (San Diego Surf), Wright (LA Galaxy Academy),Zendejas (FC Dallas Academy)


No High Schools...... ? When did a HS Team go to a college showcase?

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6 threads on the front page and smashing the above.

Only broken if you can't make the team, get cut or have something against a club you paid and left.

glad you think US Soccer is producing better players and it's a direct result from DA..Please name a few?

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Only a couple threads away...

Regardless of which DA program you are from, the DA is recognized as the best training ground for soccer at the college and US National Team level. So, for all those who "choose" to play High School instead - see article posted a few days ago:

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...d-cup_aid37753

•Twenty players on the roster are products of the Development Academy: Adams (New York Red Bulls Academy),Arellano (LA Galaxy Academy), Barbir (Players Development Academy), Calvillo(Real So Cal), da Silva (Orlando City SC Academy), de la Torre (Nomads SC & San Diego Surf), Dieterich (Real Salt Lake AZ),Gallardo (Nomads SC), Lopez (LA Galaxy Academy), McCabe(Players Development Academy), Nelson(Internationals), Olosunde (New York Red Bulls Academy), Perez (Chivas USA),C. Pulisic (PA Classics), W. Pulisic (Richmond United), Silva(Players Development Academy), Trusty(Philadelphia Union), Velela (San Diego Surf), Wright (LA Galaxy Academy),Zendejas (FC Dallas Academy)


No High Schools...... ? When did a HS Team go to a college showcase?

glad you think US Soccer is producing better players and it's a direct result from DA..Please name a few? Seem to be the same as life before the DA

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Many changes are happening with the DA system next year. Along with the addition of the U12 age group which I believe will be 04's, they DA is also moving to singular age groups with no more double age groups. In other words there will be DA teams at 04, 03, 02, 01......you get the idea. Besides, what $ is the next poster talking about? My kid plays for free.

U12 coming next year but definitely not the single digit age groups. That is still way off if at all.

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Only a couple threads away...

Regardless of which DA program you are from, the DA is recognized as the best training ground for soccer at the college and US National Team level. So, for all those who "choose" to play High School instead - see article posted a few days ago:

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...d-cup_aid37753

•Twenty players on the roster are products of the Development Academy: Adams (New York Red Bulls Academy),Arellano (LA Galaxy Academy), Barbir (Players Development Academy), Calvillo(Real So Cal), da Silva (Orlando City SC Academy), de la Torre (Nomads SC & San Diego Surf), Dieterich (Real Salt Lake AZ),Gallardo (Nomads SC), Lopez (LA Galaxy Academy), McCabe(Players Development Academy), Nelson(Internationals), Olosunde (New York Red Bulls Academy), Perez (Chivas USA),C. Pulisic (PA Classics), W. Pulisic (Richmond United), Silva(Players Development Academy), Trusty(Philadelphia Union), Velela (San Diego Surf), Wright (LA Galaxy Academy),Zendejas (FC Dallas Academy)


No High Schools...... ? When did a HS Team go to a college showcase?

Your post is silly....most of those DA's are fully paid MLS Academies, the rest are probably decent DA's. No Florida DA's except OC.

The pay out of your A.s.s DA's commonly known as "I'll take your money and give you no guarantees of any success" don't produce jack s**t....

In this group you will find pretty much all of the FL DA's. Most of those kids are just good but not great. Maybe Weston is the best in FL but that's about it. The rest are only looking for fast and strong, a.k.a Jozy Altidore. And how far did he go internationally ?

I rest my case....

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The DA is not broken it just takes time and also it is only part of the equation. The parents rec mentality and the kids lack of drive is more important than the coaching.

We have still have kids that want to play more than just soccer past the age of 10 ( not going to product players that way)

We still have parents that think kids should be well rounded ( take an instrument, focus on school, play other sports)

We still have parents that think playing year round burns kids out and they need a break.

All of the above is a major impediment to building world class players.


It takes a single minded, screw all else, soccer only focus to turn out true players. And yes, many will fall the wayside and because they spent time on soccer, they won't be well rounded or have done well in school. That is the risk they take.

And DA is going to each year in fall 2016. U12, U13, U14 and then U15/U!6 and U17/U18. The kids can play in their own age group each year up to U14. Then and only then at U15 would they have to make the U16 team to stay in the DA.

Let's give it ten or fifteen years and see what happens

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The DA is not broken it just takes time and also it is only part of the equation. The parents rec mentality and the kids lack of drive is more important than the coaching.

We have still have kids that want to play more than just soccer past the age of 10 ( not going to product players that way)

We still have parents that think kids should be well rounded ( take an instrument, focus on school, play other sports)

We still have parents that think playing year round burns kids out and they need a break.

All of the above is a major impediment to building world class players.


It takes a single minded, screw all else, soccer only focus to turn out true players. And yes, many will fall the wayside and because they spent time on soccer, they won't be well rounded or have done well in school. That is the risk they take.

And DA is going to each year in fall 2016. U12, U13, U14 and then U15/U!6 and U17/U18. The kids can play in their own age group each year up to U14. Then and only then at U15 would they have to make the U16 team to stay in the DA.

Let's give it ten or fifteen years and see what happens

DA was formed in 2007 and we have not produced any elite players so it seem to be broken. I guess you are saying it takes 18 or 23 year to produce better players?

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I major issue DA is having is bridging the gap from DA to professional After DA there is not many good options for U18-U23 players to hone their skills. Other countries have several Divisions of play and several U23 and U20 teams for college age pros. College is clearly not the way to develop a pro.

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I major issue DA is having is bridging the gap from DA to professional After DA there is not many good options for U18-U23 players to hone their skills. Other countries have several Divisions of play and several U23 and U20 teams for college age pros. College is clearly not the way to develop a pro.

Bingo! I guess players can try out for USL or NASL teams, but you are right, kids get dumped out of the system after high school.A U19/20 division would help, but I don't see that happening.

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DA was formed in 2007 and we have not produced any elite players so it seem to be broken. I guess you are saying it takes 18 or 23 year to produce better players?

if it was working then US soccer would be pulling players rather then average players from other countries (EX - Mix Diskerud). I see the bigger problem that is the US players are going to college and players in other counties are turning Pro and not going to play in the college system

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DA was formed in 2007 and we have not produced any elite players so it seem to be broken. I guess you are saying it takes 18 or 23 year to produce better players?

So its been around a total of 8 years and you want to see what kind of change in that time period? We had no world class players before that and still have none, but are making changes to see if we can create some.

And as said above, DA is only one facet that by itself won't change much or create world class players, but in combination with a mentality change by parents and players and then you have a chance.

It takes at least a generation of kids that are constantly focused only on soccer and have the right atmosphere to create the kind of players you are talking about and that the environment has not existed in the passed and largely still doesn't. But DA is not the problem and is a step in the right direction.

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It is about money. The European system a club gets paid to develop a player by controlling transfer rights. Here the control of players belongs to MLS. A small club in Europe can make a years budget by developing a player and getting paid a transfer fee.

So DA,ODP,Club, High School are irrelevant if you want to go pro or play on a national team.

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Here is story about the problem with US soccer control for development compensation

http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2015...texans-dempsey

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So its been around a total of 8 years and you want to see what kind of change in that time period? We had no world class players before that and still have none, but are making changes to see if we can create some.

And as said above, DA is only one facet that by itself won't change much or create world class players, but in combination with a mentality change by parents and players and then you have a chance.

It takes at least a generation of kids that are constantly focused only on soccer and have the right atmosphere to create the kind of players you are talking about and that the environment has not existed in the passed and largely still doesn't. But DA is not the problem and is a step in the right direction.

DA is is a step in the right direction?

U19 - Germany 8 - USA 1.

We are not Europe, we are not South America, we are the United States. The best players in this country are not playing DA. They simply cannot afford it or they don't have transportation to and from practices. DA is just a more expensive pay to play club. And as far as constantly focused only on soccer? How is it that Football players as well as Basketball and Baseball players in this country can play several sports in high school and still be the best at their sport? What is it about soccer that is so different. We are bad at soccer because have not opened the door for everyone to enter. We turned it into a private money making machine that benefits only a few. Money determines who gets access to the best coaches, private trainers, college camps, showcase attendance, etc.

We will not create a world class player as long as we continue keeping the door opened just enough to let in only a select few through. Klinsman's son is the goalkeeper for USA U19? Another daddy coach is running our national program?

We have a very long road ahead of us indeed.

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DA is is a step in the right direction?

U19 - Germany 8 - USA 1.

We are not Europe, we are not South America, we are the United States. The best players in this country are not playing DA. They simply cannot afford it or they don't have transportation to and from practices. DA is just a more expensive pay to play club. And as far as constantly focused only on soccer? How is it that Football players as well as Basketball and Baseball players in this country can play several sports in high school and still be the best at their sport? What is it about soccer that is so different. We are bad at soccer because have not opened the door for everyone to enter. We turned it into a private money making machine that benefits only a few. Money determines who gets access to the best coaches, private trainers, college camps, showcase attendance, etc.

We will not create a world class player as long as we continue keeping the door opened just enough to let in only a select few through. Klinsman's son is the goalkeeper for USA U19? Another daddy coach is running our national program?

We have a very long road ahead of us indeed.

I couldn't disagree with you more.

The door is wide open to players that have ability. If you are playing and paying for it, you are really not that good in the first place. Many of the DA programs throughout the country are free and when they move to only MLS teams have DA, they will all be free. Many are in the process of building schools around the academy and work with players of lesser means to make sure they can play, if they are good enough.

The US National teams have many kids that are from lower socioeconomic backgrounds and they are not being overlooked. That is a myth.

Yes, soccer is completely different than American football, baseball. Those sports only take basic rudimentary skill that can be learned in a year or two. They rely on physical god given gifts and not learned skill or the ability to process the game. Soccer is different. You have to go "All in" on soccer to become great. Show me a world class player that didn't dedicate themselves to soccer starting at a young age.

The argument we don't have the best athletes in soccer is tired and worn out. Iniesta, Xavi, David Silva, and many others are not the "Best athletes" in Spain. We don't need Dez Bryant or Russell Wilson on the soccer field. We need kids that have lived it from an early age, have an unstoppable passion and haven't been babied by US parents and coaches.