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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The other way to figure it out is as follows:
    u16 doesn't mean under 16. It actually means any player that turns 16 (in the current year) and any age under (since there is rule against playing up).

    So in May, any player that turns 16 in 2016 (Jan through Dec). So the 00's turn 16 in Jan, so they will be the u16's.
    Correction: Since there is NO rule against playing up.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Incorrect.
      In May (start of next season 16/17), 2001's will be u15.

      There is a technical way to figure it out, but the easy way is the following:

      The older year of the current system is what carries forward. So in the current system, 00/01's are u15 this year. So next year, the 00's become u16. The younger year stays the current age group. So the 01's stay u15. It seems like they get an additional year of soccer, but its not.
      Incorrect! Look up US soccer Birth year and season matrix.
      https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...n%20Matrix.pdf

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Incorrect! Look up US soccer Birth year and season matrix.
        https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...n%20Matrix.pdf
        That chart has been circulated in many other threads specifically about the age change. There are several other charts that show the other age. That chart is incorrect.
        If going by that chart, many 2000's will never play u16 and go straight to u17.

        Look up the other threads and you will even see posts that bring up the different charts showing different standards.
        And yes, the other charts I'm reffering to are from US Soccer as well.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          That chart has been circulated in many other threads specifically about the age change. There are several other charts that show the other age. That chart is incorrect.
          If going by that chart, many 2000's will never play u16 and go straight to u17.

          Look up the other threads and you will even see posts that bring up the different charts showing different standards.
          And yes, the other charts I'm reffering to are from US Soccer as well.
          Its very inconsistent what the age will be. Some state organizations show it the two differnt ways.

          But the main thing to take away is that the u[age] won't really matter. If you are an 02, you are an 02. Tournaments will have 02, 03 age groups instead of u14, u13 labels.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Incorrect! Look up US soccer Birth year and season matrix.
            https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...n%20Matrix.pdf
            this is the accurate chart

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              this is the accurate chart
              yes

              http://www.oksoccer.com/assets/pdfs/...ear_Matrix.pdf

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                So a current u16 who was born Dec. of 99 will be u18 next year and completely skip u17. That's crappy

                It doesn't really matter because everything will go by the actual birth year labels (01, 02, 03) instead of u16, u17.
                But it may become an issue with colleges who want to look at "u17's" next year. The girls born in 99 (Aug-Dec) will skip straight to u18 and petentially not be looked at (even though they would have under the old system).

                Again, the issues are small, but still worth noting.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  So a current u16 who was born Dec. of 99 will be u18 next year and completely skip u17. That's crappy

                  It doesn't really matter because everything will go by the actual birth year labels (01, 02, 03) instead of u16, u17.
                  But it may become an issue with colleges who want to look at "u17's" next year. The girls born in 99 (Aug-Dec) will skip straight to u18 and petentially not be looked at (even though they would have under the old system).

                  Again, the issues are small, but still worth noting.
                  People just do not get it. The u16 born in Dec. 1999 will be on a 1999 birthdates team in the fall (2000s could play up on the team) College coaches will be scouting all 1999 teams next year as many of those players will be juniors. The year after that, the club will most likely still have enough players to call a team a 1999 (again 2000s could playing up on it). College coaches would still come watch the 1999 team in two years as the team would have seniors and maybe some juniors playing up.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    2001's will be U16 therefore, if the 02's play up they will be U16.
                    No the Fesa team will not be u16. They will be a 2001 team with most of the girls being 14 years old when the fall begins. They will complete against other 2001 teams.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      People just do not get it. The u16 born in Dec. 1999 will be on a 1999 birthdates team in the fall (2000s could play up on the team) College coaches will be scouting all 1999 teams next year as many of those players will be juniors. The year after that, the club will most likely still have enough players to call a team a 1999 (again 2000s could playing up on it). College coaches would still come watch the 1999 team in two years as the team would have seniors and maybe some juniors playing up.
                      I know. I get what you are saying. I was just making a specific example.
                      But my example can actually happen.

                      There are many schools that may scout a particular graduation year because they already have a full freshman class coming in. Or they already have enough Senior prospects. So they go scout specifically a High School Junior class. It happened to some girls on our u17 team last year from a D2 school.

                      I'm not saying its an issue worth worrying about. No matter what, there will always be girls on a team that are 11 months apart.

                      Only now, they match up by calendar year; which doesn't match the graduation year.
                      For example, lets say 16 players on a u18 team are equally divided between 8 97's and 8 98's. So a college coach was able to scout all those seniors by looking at that u18 team. Now to see those same seniors, he will have to visit the u18 team as well as the u19 team (98's and 99's). If he only wants to go to see the 98 team, the 99's lose out.
                      Its a stretch and a very specific example just to illustrate a point.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        No the Fesa team will not be u16. They will be a 2001 team with most of the girls being 14 years old when the fall begins. They will complete against other 2001 teams.
                        They will play 2001 and be considered U16. Sorry! Doesn't matter though, will be all relative across the board.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          They will play 2001 and be considered U16. Sorry! Doesn't matter though, will be all relative across the board.
                          No because they will be no more labels like U16. Teams will be known only as 1999, 2000, 2001,....

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            No the Fesa team will not be u16. They will be a 2001 team with most of the girls being 14 years old when the fall begins. They will complete against other 2001 teams.
                            Most of 2001s will be sophomores in highschool next year.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Most of 2001s will be sophomores in highschool next year.
                              This is what a 2001 team will look like
                              2001 Jan through Aug birthdays (kids will graduate June 2019) - sophomores next year
                              2001 Sept through December (kids will graduate June 2020)- freshmen next year

                              About 2/3 will be sophomores and 1/3 of the 2001 team will be freshmen next year

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                This is what a 2001 team will look like
                                2001 Jan through Aug birthdays (kids will graduate June 2019) - sophomores next year
                                2001 Sept through December (kids will graduate June 2020)- freshmen next year

                                About 2/3 will be sophomores and 1/3 of the 2001 team will be freshmen next year
                                Spot on. Plus the 2001 team may include a few 2002s that are just that good.

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