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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Tricks to the system
    First, take those AP and DE classes before the senior year because UF only looks up to junior year. That is the only way to get the GPA weighted high enough. Our daughter will have 12 DE and AP courses taken when she graduates but the senior courses never were factored into her GPA for consideration for admittance. Second, UF keeps increasing its standards so when they take the SAT or ACT and think they are at or above the mean then take a course or get it higher than the mean (because UF ups its mean scores each year due to the common app worldly pool) if live in-state or are a white female.
    Have a tutor for writing the perfect essay so they don't look like a normal student but one who is eccentric with arts passion and unique community leadership that will change the world. Make up a story, they'll never know if it is true. Put down whatever on the application for community service hours or activities. They'll never know. UF does not even ask for a transcript that would show if the student submitted the correct GPA or the correct volunteer hours. Who knows, listing those AP and Dual Enrollment courses may get them rejected because coming into college with too many credit hours is less money for the university because the students graduate early. Make an edge for them with a fancy embellished application, but don't lie.
    You are too honest and too white. Is this all a joke? UF doesn't ask for a transcript? Sounds legit to me.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      You are too honest and too white. Is this all a joke? UF doesn't ask for a transcript? Sounds legit to me.
      UF does not want and will not take a transcript from any student until after they are admitted and have graduated with a final transcript. Thirteen years of education and a the university doesn't want to look at their transcripts, their educational career resumes.

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        #33
        The reality is most won't be playing D1 college soccer or attending as a regular student because they will be hard to get into. UCF has a 4.0 mean GPA and 1360 SAT to get admitted, and community college or working at the pizza joint may be a reality and nothing wrong with that reality. No reasoning or control over it. It is what it is for each kid. But the parents can control if they give money to their alma mater or attend events. When the alma mater has not grown to accomodate the Florida students who are deserving and admits out of state students with lesser qualifications, then the partnership is over.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          If you live in a high economic area because more of the single family home owners attended college and have a better school district and public schools, the students will have a more difficult time being ranked in the graduating class. A 4.5 weighted GPA at graduation will have our kid at like 50th in her class. UF is taking about 6 students from her class and four were national merit finalists. UF does not have room for Florida's Bright Futures students, yet will turn around and take more transfer and students from community colleges two years down the road, many out of state too. Over 50% of the masters and doctorate degree seeking students are from out of state, even though the freshmen % was around 23.39% for 2017. The 2018 statistics are not published until Feb 2019 and then the admittance rate for out of state freshmen could be as high as 30% (predicting because of the Common app and receiving 7,000 more applications this year).
          Another thread to bash UF admissions. Our public school has at least 25 accepted out of class of less than 140. The common app is driving all the stats upward and making it harder for everyone to get into their dream school. Some are using UF as a backup. Weighted Gpa is deceiving - UF values rigor of courses also. A 4.5 taking elective dual enrollment classes isn't as impressive as taking code AP classes. Athough UF is more random with their decisions, kids are being denied from FSU and UCF that would've made it easily just a couple years ago. Out of state acceptance and yield rates aren't available yet, but everyone assumes they are giving preferential treatment to non residents.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Another thread to bash UF admissions. Our public school has at least 25 accepted out of class of less than 140. The common app is driving all the stats upward and making it harder for everyone to get into their dream school. Some are using UF as a backup. Weighted Gpa is deceiving - UF values rigor of courses also. A 4.5 taking elective dual enrollment classes isn't as impressive as taking code AP classes. Athough UF is more random with their decisions, kids are being denied from FSU and UCF that would've made it easily just a couple years ago. Out of state acceptance and yield rates aren't available yet, but everyone assumes they are giving preferential treatment to non residents.
            Over 2,400 high schools in Florida times 25 students would be 60,000 students. UF has room for 6,500 freshmen and 25% of those freshmen are from out-of-state if going on data reports from 2017. The same top students apply to all the Florida colleges and they get into all of them. Also a Dual Enrollment class is taught by college professors and they are not less or more difficult than an AP course taught by regular high school teachers. Universities do know that.

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              #36
              The reality is the masses won't be playing in college and they were happy to do it as a youngster and will play as an adult. The masses are applying to UF and FSU and the majority won't be getting admitted. This thread is giving the soccer junior an edge on his college application.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Over 2,400 high schools in Florida times 25 students would be 60,000 students. UF has room for 6,500 freshmen and 25% of those freshmen are from out-of-state if going on data reports from 2017. The same top students apply to all the Florida colleges and they get into all of them. Also a Dual Enrollment class is taught by college professors and they are not less or more difficult than an AP course taught by regular high school teachers. Universities do know that.
                Dual enrollment classes are way easier than AP classes. It's where students go for an easy A. Try to compare college algebra at a community college to AP calculus A/B or B/C. UF certainly knows this. Community college is not where the top students take classes, and full of older students who are returning to college taking remedial level classes

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Over 2,400 high schools in Florida times 25 students would be 60,000 students. UF has room for 6,500 freshmen and 25% of those freshmen are from out-of-state if going on data reports from 2017. The same top students apply to all the Florida colleges and they get into all of them. Also a Dual Enrollment class is taught by college professors and they are not less or more difficult than an AP course taught by regular high school teachers. Universities do know that.
                  A school getting 25 kids in is a top high school. Many schools are not, UF knows it, and thus they will not get that many admitted.

                  As for the rigor of CC classes it very much depends on the school and instructor. Some CC are far less challenging than even regular core HS classes, let alone AP classes. Also most students will take the AP placement exam which also scores knowledge. There is no equivalent for CC coursework.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Dual enrollment classes are way easier than AP classes. It's where students go for an easy A. Try to compare college algebra at a community college to AP calculus A/B or B/C. UF certainly knows this. Community college is not where the top students take classes, and full of older students who are returning to college taking remedial level classes
                    Depends on the school, course, and instructor. Daughter has gone to school early and late doing study sessions to help pass the AP tests. While the AP standardized test may be hard the AP teacher may give all A’s out. Talked to one AP Calc teacher who said he never let his students get below a C. Dual enrollment classes can be harder than some AP and the grade sticks with them on their college transcript! Our daughter’s DE English writing instructor was a grizzly bear and the anatomy DE class only the national merit finalists admitted to UF had an A.

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                      #40
                      The admissions office doesn’t know the Michigan kids school nor the Chinese school. The computers have algorithms doing the cuts and it’s a numbers game. Some students out of state are worth more money and they know that too.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Very damming segment on HBO Real Sports (season 24, episode 4) about college sports and the NCAA - abusive coaches, athletes spending 50 hours a week on team related travel and activity (despite NCAA rules against it, that are always violated). Be careful what you wish for. There's a lot to be said for D3 - still a big commitment but with more balance and no read of losing your scholarship - or simply playing club and having a more rounded college experience.
                        There are no D3 in Florida to use Bright Futures.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          UF is what, 25% out of state? I looked and UCLA is 12% overall (16% frosh), Berkley 23%.
                          USC is highest at 40% but despite it's name is a private school, not state. UVA=30% frosh; UNC 18% (state law 82% must be NC residents). UF is pretty in range with other top state schools.
                          UF was 25% out of state freshmen acceptance-actual attendance but the admittance percentage was closer to 50% freshmen out of state for 2017. The graduate and doctorate attendance at UF is 50% out of state. NotMyStateCollege

                          Soccer TS parents, have a reality check early. If the GPA is not near the mean of 4.4 then get to work.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            There are no D3 in Florida to use Bright Futures.
                            Leave the state. There's countless great schools north of the state line. If you're not willing to then you've made your choice and have to live with what the state options are.

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                              #44
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Leave the state. There's countless great schools north of the state line. If you're not willing to then you've made your choice and have to live with what the state options are.
                                The point being able to use the scholarship in Florida.

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