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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    And TBU lost that action.

    Liverpool will be its own club next year. WFF nor TBU will have anything to do with it and neither control the parents or the kids. This mentality of TBU and WFF thinking they own players and parents is what makes everyone mad. From season to season, everyone has the right to change clubs and go where they think it best for their situation. No club controls this decision. If you put a good product out, people will buy it, but if you treat people like crap and don't put out a good product, people will leave. It's really that simple and that is what these big clubs have lost sight of.

    They are fighting with each other to see how "big" they can become and not really paying attention to the needs of each "local" community. It won't work in the long run and recent history of mergers and failures across the area are a good indication that they will not work in the future if the intent of the mergers is not done with a focus on the kids, which none of these mergers have been. WFF and GTBFC are already having problems. I wish that the situation for these bigger clubs were different as there is a lot of talent in the area, but it isn't and it will continue to hurt the soccer community as they continue to fight over the wrong principles and for the wrong reasons. There is a way to provide for the local kids that just want to play and provide for the "elite" kids that truly have talent to progress to next levels, but with the egos of these boards and directors, that will never happen here. Sad but true.
    LFC isn't what made the program at So. Tampa. Parents are there for what AM does and his staff. It was going to be WFF prior to this LFC trial in So. Tampa. LFC doesn't provide the fields, LFC doesn't provide the goals or equipment. LFC doesn't provide the coaching staff. You fail to see that because you are so quick to blame TBU or WFF, while LFC takes your $$ for adding nothing of value to the program. All you have is due to how WFF staff support AM.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      And TBU lost that action.

      Liverpool will be its own club next year. WFF nor TBU will have anything to do with it and neither control the parents or the kids. This mentality of TBU and WFF thinking they own players and parents is what makes everyone mad. From season to season, everyone has the right to change clubs and go where they think it best for their situation. No club controls this decision. If you put a good product out, people will buy it, but if you treat people like crap and don't put out a good product, people will leave. It's really that simple and that is what these big clubs have lost sight of.

      They are fighting with each other to see how "big" they can become and not really paying attention to the needs of each "local" community. It won't work in the long run and recent history of mergers and failures across the area are a good indication that they will not work in the future if the intent of the mergers is not done with a focus on the kids, which none of these mergers have been. WFF and GTBFC are already having problems. I wish that the situation for these bigger clubs were different as there is a lot of talent in the area, but it isn't and it will continue to hurt the soccer community as they continue to fight over the wrong principles and for the wrong reasons. There is a way to provide for the local kids that just want to play and provide for the "elite" kids that truly have talent to progress to next levels, but with the egos of these boards and directors, that will never happen here. Sad but true.
      TBU isn't growing. They are losing customers did to poor service. ( There was another thread here a few days ago about the lack of leadership at TBU). TBU South is becoming a ghost town these days. Many players and teams left last year and won't be replaced. Youth soccer is becoming big business and if you treat the customers badly they will take their $$$$ elsewhere. TBU needs to rethink its plan quickly before it goes under. many other parents see the same thing.

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        #18
        Shows how much you know about nothing. LFC would never ask TBU as there was a mass exodus from parents and coaches last year because of their displeasure with the club. TBU got their feelings hurt and tried to sue people. They lost by the way. LOL

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Shows how much you know about nothing. LFC would never ask TBU as there was a mass exodus from parents and coaches last year because of their displeasure with the club. TBU got their feelings hurt and tried to sue people. They lost by the way. LOL
          LFC offered the program to TBU prior to WFF. When TBU said no it's why JH, AM and SH left TBU.

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            #20
            Couple questions. Can LFC have it's own club at the current location? Wasn't the only reason they were able to have the location so close to TBU S was the affilation with WFF?

            Will the new LFC be this WFF branch. Just separated from WFF? Or will they look elsewhere and start over.

            Last. What has WFF Liverpool FC or what ever they are called received from LFC that makes it worth staying attached. The old coach from TBU I see being the draw, what have they actually received from LFC to want that name so bad. I only know one family from there. Except for a intro practice when it was first announced, they said they did nothing from LFC itself, but maybe they just missed out on things. Or maybe it is a Coaches thing with training.

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              #21
              More info. will be shared in the weeks and months ahead. LFC will remain in S. Tampa without WFF. They've already got the field, etc.. worked out. Announcements will be made soon.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                More info. will be shared in the weeks and months ahead. LFC will remain in S. Tampa without WFF. They've already got the field, etc.. worked out. Announcements will be made soon.
                That is interesting. Didn't think they could stand alone because of FYSA rules.

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                  #23
                  Nobody said LFC would stand alone...

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                    #24
                    Liverpool

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Nobody said LFC would stand alone...
                    . You'll never walk alone!

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                      #25
                      What was really gained now looking back a year later. As parents of former TBU players what was TBU doing that was limiting your child's enjoyment of soccer and the development? It obviously was not the coaching because you left because of the coaches leaving and continue to have the same coaches. Your practice schedule and training is the same. You actually had to pay a little more and had to get new uniforms for your kids, so it was not a cost issue. Your kids team dropped From the CDL and had to play USA Divison 2, so it had nothing to do with the league they were in. Your training field is not better and is only a few miles from Monroe. SH left before you guys even started so you did not even get to keep him. You went from in your view being neglected by TBU, and now the same you claim is being done by WFF.
                      I can see it how it was a gain for AM and the coaches. AM went for U9 Academy coach to maybe director of said LFC in Tampa. Now that LP is offering him a better deal he is willing to drop WFF like he did TBU. Seems a pattern, convince the parents that directors are evil by using the team managers to spread the word, and then get their kids to follow them, since with no soccer players no team.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        More info. will be shared in the weeks and months ahead. LFC will remain in S. Tampa without WFF. They've already got the field, etc.. worked out. Announcements will be made soon.
                        This sounds like a secret plan that will only be revealed after I win the election

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          And TBU lost that action.

                          Liverpool will be its own club next year. WFF nor TBU will have anything to do with it and neither control the parents or the kids. This mentality of TBU and WFF thinking they own players and parents is what makes everyone mad. From season to season, everyone has the right to change clubs and go where they think it best for their situation. No club controls this decision. If you put a good product out, people will buy it, but if you treat people like crap and don't put out a good product, people will leave. It's really that simple and that is what these big clubs have lost sight of.

                          They are fighting with each other to see how "big" they can become and not really paying attention to the needs of each "local" community. It won't work in the long run and recent history of mergers and failures across the area are a good indication that they will not work in the future if the intent of the mergers is not done with a focus on the kids, which none of these mergers have been. WFF and GTBFC are already having problems. I wish that the situation for these bigger clubs were different as there is a lot of talent in the area, but it isn't and it will continue to hurt the soccer community as they continue to fight over the wrong principles and for the wrong reasons. There is a way to provide for the local kids that just want to play and provide for the "elite" kids that truly have talent to progress to next levels, but with the egos of these boards and directors, that will never happen here. Sad but true.
                          very well stated. As in teaching, you always put the kid in the center and build everything else around them goes for soccer.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            And TBU lost that action.

                            Liverpool will be its own club next year. WFF nor TBU will have anything to do with it and neither control the parents or the kids. This mentality of TBU and WFF thinking they own players and parents is what makes everyone mad. From season to season, everyone has the right to change clubs and go where they think it best for their situation. No club controls this decision. If you put a good product out, people will buy it, but if you treat people like crap and don't put out a good product, people will leave. It's really that simple and that is what these big clubs have lost sight of.

                            They are fighting with each other to see how "big" they can become and not really paying attention to the needs of each "local" community. It won't work in the long run and recent history of mergers and failures across the area are a good indication that they will not work in the future if the intent of the mergers is not done with a focus on the kids, which none of these mergers have been. WFF and GTBFC are already having problems. I wish that the situation for these bigger clubs were different as there is a lot of talent in the area, but it isn't and it will continue to hurt the soccer community as they continue to fight over the wrong principles and for the wrong reasons. There is a way to provide for the local kids that just want to play and provide for the "elite" kids that truly have talent to progress to next levels, but with the egos of these boards and directors, that will never happen here. Sad but true.
                            Very well stated. As in teaching, you always put the kid in the center and build everything else around them goes for soccer as well.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Very well stated. As in teaching, you always put the kid in the center and build everything else around them goes for soccer as well.
                              I hope that it will workout for Liverpool America and they are honest and are truly trying something different. Going from TBU to WFF was not really a great change other than the uniforms from our perspective. We did get to retain the coach we like but as a club I saw nothing different from WFF than TBU.

                              Maybe if someone was straight up and sold youth soccer like a product, and I mean a product that was better than what is out there they would attract more customers. I never can understand why parents put up with these crazy Kabuls that run soccer clubs with all these artificial rules and restrictions they put out there which of course is only to their benefit.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I hope that it will workout for Liverpool America and they are honest and are truly trying something different. Going from TBU to WFF was not really a great change other than the uniforms from our perspective. We did get to retain the coach we like but as a club I saw nothing different from WFF than TBU.

                                Maybe if someone was straight up and sold youth soccer like a product, and I mean a product that was better than what is out there they would attract more customers. I never can understand why parents put up with these crazy Kabuls that run soccer clubs with all these artificial rules and restrictions they put out there which of course is only to their benefit.
                                Please disclose those artificial rules and restrictions that parents shouldn't have to put up with and tell us how Liverpool America should distinguish itself from other clubs on the west coast of Florida.

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