I think our team has received more than our respective portion of horrible referring this year. Is it just my experience or is everyone feeling it. I am not a complainer of refs determining the outcome of our games as I know quite well our team has more than a few issues, but the bad calls going both ways have been off the charts horrible. Is it ref training, not enough refs, no hiring criteria, no performance evaluation, no accountability, or just too young and or inexperience
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think our team has received more than our respective portion of horrible referring this year. Is it just my experience or is everyone feeling it. I am not a complainer of refs determining the outcome of our games as I know quite well our team has more than a few issues, but the bad calls going both ways have been off the charts horrible. Is it ref training, not enough refs, no hiring criteria, no performance evaluation, no accountability, or just too young and or inexperience
#1 what is your win/loss record this year and what was it last year?
#2 seriously what do you expect for $20 a game? They take an online class and then go out and do the games. Who's going to pay for all the training and other stuff you want?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWe haven't done this troll in a while...
#1 what is your win/loss record this year and what was it last year?
#2 seriously what do you expect for $20 a game? They take an online class and then go out and do the games. Who's going to pay for all the training and other stuff you want?
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Youth refs are what they are....fallible inexperience parents trying to be call a good game. Rarely have I seen refs that intend to cheat (except at Osceola).
Once you understand that your frustration level will ease.
Think for a moment about the referring at the WORLD CUP in Brazil. A travesty (especially when Brazil played) and those are the worlds BEST referees. The game is simply not designed for perfect refereeing.
Don't you feel better now?
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Refs were bad at FCA Preseason. It was so bad that it was almost nice to see a parent actually tell one of them F--K U to his face LOL!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWe haven't done this troll in a while...
#1 what is your win/loss record this year and what was it last year?
#2 seriously what do you expect for $20 a game? They take an online class and then go out and do the games. Who's going to pay for all the training and other stuff you want?
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Reminds me of the many names and faces of refereeing- Willie Whistle, Silent Sam, Napoleon Nick, and Great-Effort-Grandpa!
They all have a name and face, and when you finally settle down, and find the humor, you'll live longer! Its a game, and only a game, and no one's life will depend on the game (no matter what- hoping to be college player, pro player, girl getter, etc).
Until the system changes (more pay and better training = higher fees to you), chances are that Willie will have the whistle glued to his lips, or frigging Sam will have left his violation cards in the car again.
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Originally posted by unregistered View Posti think our team has received more than our respective portion of horrible referring this year. Is it just my experience or is everyone feeling it. I am not a complainer of refs determining the outcome of our games as i know quite well our team has more than a few issues, but the bad calls going both ways have been off the charts horrible. Is it ref training, not enough refs, no hiring criteria, no performance evaluation, no accountability, or just too young and or inexperience
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I don't see that there is much of an issue. you are asking for ref's to be perfect in their calls 100% of the time; don't forget that kids, parents and coaches are bias in their view of many calls, as they go against them. Let the calls comes; you'd rather there were no calls? I do see some difference between HS and Club and again it depends on whether they are league games, and/or cup tournaments (not showcases). Often in those high leve3l games you hear more "play on" happening. kAlso the the refs also have a certain expectation at those games as they "expect" the players, coaches and spectators have a certain level of respect/integrity for what they are doing and how they are playing... at least the expectation is there; you can't guarantee good sportsmanship but it is expected. That should occur at all levels regardless, and everyone knows it, they just don't adhere to those ideas. A shame.
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Center refs get $40
Ars $20 per game
simply paying more will not help as many just do it for the money. we have had unfit refs not keeping up then telling us 'its my third game today'
First there needs to be more spent on better training and education. Too many don't know the basic laws.
A ref can get to level 8 easily ...and stay there.
Every ref should be assessed, and there should be a period of time where they then have to attempt to move up a level. THEN incentivize by paying more per game for higher level refs.
in order put money into
1. training
2. continuous education and assessment.
3. progression
4. the higher the level the better the pay.
right now we have too many bozos who just see it as an easy paycheck.............anyone could pick up $100 a day cash with little effort and knowledge.
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just checked back
in 18 games
we have had 2 out of 54 refs/ars that were not level 8
one was 7 one said 15 !!
says it all
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The sport is growing at an exponential rate while the refs are floundering with no support or guidance. They have been horrible this year, and this goes for both teams on the field. I have seen U16 girls this year swing at each other and nobody carded or tossed from the game. I could handle bad refs if they were consistent with the calls and making the same calls against both teams, but that just has not been the case. The sideline refs don't even understand offsides and in most cases are out of position. Hell, half the time they cannot indicate who's throw-in it is until they look at the head ref. There have been a few standouts this year, those refs that take control of the game, keeping things from getting out of hand.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postthere "is" a ref mentorship program in the state with the focus on improving the quality (including fifa refs from different levels). Some of the problems are that small tournaments would have to cough up the money for the refs, the mentors, and the program support. Disney/espn's tournaments are so big that the mentorship refs can only cover a fraction of the games eventhough the program is well supported and funded at thier venue.
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worst ref
the worst ref is the fat peruvian with the shoulder length hair... totally clueless idiot
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