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Candidate gets it right. Soccer in other cultures/countries is tribal.
We can whine all we want about "them" as if the governing powers are to blame.
No amount of system tweaking will fix the fact that our best athletes are not playing playground soccer. We have "very good" athletes playing organized soccer. Until soccer is played by urban, suburban, and rural children with equal access and heightened vigor, it will remain the case that our 2nd Tier athletes represent US Soccer (or Europeans with US passports).
I am not saying your boy is clumsy, nor am i saying soccer players are not world class athletes. I am only saying that US Soccer is not attracting the US' BEST athletes. On the boys side most of the best aspire to be "ballers", and on the girls side the poor need not apply
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCandidate gets it right. Soccer in other cultures/countries is tribal.
We can whine all we want about "them" as if the governing powers are to blame.
No amount of system tweaking will fix the fact that our best athletes are not playing playground soccer. We have "very good" athletes playing organized soccer. Until soccer is played by urban, suburban, and rural children with equal access and heightened vigor, it will remain the case that our 2nd Tier athletes represent US Soccer (or Europeans with US passports).
I am not saying your boy is clumsy, nor am i saying soccer players are not world class athletes. I am only saying that US Soccer is not attracting the US' BEST athletes. On the boys side most of the best aspire to be "ballers", and on the girls side the poor need not apply
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWe have plenty of athletes. It's how they are trained, developed and identified where we're sorely lacking. If Iceland can cobble together a world class national team in a nation of 350,000 people surely we can too.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFunny how two people look at same data and draw dramatically different conclusions. I think you just made beautifully made the other poster's point. Iceland is essentially a "tribe" and proves that it's not about numbers, it's about culture. They embraced soccer and attracted their best. US is a long way from that
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFunny how two people look at same data and draw dramatically different conclusions. I think you just made beautifully made the other poster's point. Iceland is essentially a "tribe" and proves that it's not about numbers, it's about culture. They embraced soccer and attracted their best. US is a long way from that
However, Team Handball is Iceland national sport and one they have had Olympic success at both women's and men's side. Team handball gets their best athletes not soccer
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIceland is indeed a tribe.
However, Team Handball is Iceland national sport and one they have had Olympic success at both women's and men's side. Team handball gets their best athletes not soccer
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postdifferent poster - since their soccer endeavor is not quite 10 years old or so I wouldn't expect much in the way of soccer success, yet their men's team has moved far up the ranks in the last few years. Other much smaller countries with fewer resources also kick our azzes - take a look at FIFA rankings. Yes I agree we don't have a soccer culture, but we do have enough athletes and certainly resources to get the job done. I'm not talking about raising the level of MLS, but having enough talented US players to form a MNT that can actually do well on the international stage. Sad. Bigly sad.
I do agree with your assertion that we have more than enough athletes.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWe have plenty of athletes. It's how they are trained, developed and identified where we're sorely lacking. If Iceland can cobble together a world class national team in a nation of 350,000 people surely we can too.
Iceland also went all in on high-level licensing for all youth soccer coaches. Even the youngest kids just starting out in soccer are now developed by the equivalent of US Soccer B level coaches. 30% of Iceland's coaches are FIFA A-licensed. This ensures that even from the youngest age, coaches are competent in the teaching the game and the skills necessary to excel in the game.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIceland went all in... the entire country, on soccer development. They built indoor facilities all over the country so players wouldn't have to travel far and could play year round. Those facilities are not "For Profit" like Forekicks and others here... the players can actually use them without having to pay $100's of dollars for an hour of field time.
Iceland also went all in on high-level licensing for all youth soccer coaches. Even the youngest kids just starting out in soccer are now developed by the equivalent of US Soccer B level coaches. 30% of Iceland's coaches are FIFA A-licensed. This ensures that even from the youngest age, coaches are competent in the teaching the game and the skills necessary to excel in the game.
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#1)Kids are thrilled in DA. They just need enough training time to be successful. 4.5 hrs training /week is a joke. We are 10 hrs / week behind Europe/So. America! that's 520 hrs/year and about 2000 hrs by the time kids are 18 and ready to go pro.
Simple math. Fun- Yes. Nannies driving Weston kids to practice 2 hours each way. Competitive? World class? Absolutely dismal!
#2)Kids in DA are going to college , most to become CEOs, Engineers and Doctors - not pros
Where do these ridiculous candidates get the balls to lead US soccer knowing nothing about soccer? No wonder this country is the Sh1thole of soccer
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post"We will revamp the U.S. Development Academy, preserving what is right about the DA but eliminating the restrictions which create joyless players and are counterproductive to player development. Liberalization of the high school playing restriction will be explored."
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#1)Kids are thrilled in DA. They just need enough training time to be successful. 4.5 hrs training /week is a joke. We are 10 hrs / week behind Europe/So. America! that's 520 hrs/year and about 2000 hrs by the time kids are 18 and ready to go pro.
Simple math. Fun- Yes. Nannies driving Weston kids to practice 2 hours each way. Competitive? World class? Absolutely dismal!
#2)Kids in DA are going to college , most to become CEOs, Engineers and Doctors - not pros
Where do these ridiculous candidates get the balls to lead US soccer knowing nothing about soccer? No wonder this country is the Sh1thole of soccer
"Joyless". He might be referring to his own kids. He said they were on the academy teams, but I don't recall this last name.
There are some major differences in youth soccer between the US and any serious soccer country....
1. First, the US is not very serious about soccer. They are getting better. The MLS salaries are slowing creeping up and the media will show 1-3 games at almost anytime. That said, college football, basketball, and hockey are still more popular.
2. Soccer/Fitness training. It was only recently that the clubs went from 2 to 3 practices per week. Valeo may have even been the earliest. Still, a serious program should practice 5-6 days per week with a game (? two). One or two days can be a two-for with one session being fitness and another being soccer.
3. ? Residence academies which will satisfy #2 more easily....as well as school.
Although these might be good ideas....someone has to pay for them. Maybe George Soros???
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Then he shows up at GPS with his kid still wearing his BOLTs jacket.
I'll say no more.
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