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Who gives a crap about girls soccer, besides parents and few roommates
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLike women's Olympic Gymnastics, everyone will tune in once every 4 years for the finals, then go back to sleep.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYeh, I might even watch the bobsled finals in a few weeks, especially if Jamaica is in it. The stands for the round-robin games they were half empty, even for US and Canadian matches. If Mias make bench at Div 1. crazy soccer moms and roomates spectators is about right.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTotally agree, and its still more than boys
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgree. At my darling no Mia’s D1 games generally they play before 1,000 +- a game. I went to a men's game at the same school and there was less than 200 in the stands. Her team is treated like queens in the athletic department and by the male athletes. Not the same for the men's team. They are treated like a club team and have to beg for support. The other male athletes treat them like they are all a waste of space. My daughter says it’s embarrassing how little respect they get, even from her team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLike the poster above using the world cup final ratings as a benchmark, using a sample size of one to illustrate a point concerning the overall landscape is idiotic at best. To your point about D1 attendance, in 2016 the top 10 schools for attendance averaged roughly 1,900 on the girls side and 2,800 on the boys side. Your bias is not unlike the bias any other parent has on both the girls and boys side. You get to see only a narrow glimpse of the overall soccer landscape. The edge the women's game does have is that it's easier to get d1 scholarships not only due to the 16-9.9 advantage in available scholarships, but also the global competition for spots on the men's side. With a higher percentage of local girls playing at top schools due to the lack of true global influence in the game, you get more families involved longer on the girls side, creating the illusion of more interest on the girls side from the perspective of those involved in youth soccer. Outside of the immediate soccer world parents see, the quality of the product always wins out, and as a whole the men's game is vastly superior product. Despite its standing as a minnow on the world stage, MLS attendance is 2-2.5 times greater than NWSL attendance, a league showcasing some of the worlds greatest players on the women's side. I personally enjoy and support the women's game in this country, but very few who don't have direct involvement in the game choose to watch, outside of the major events like a world cup final. Happy holidays to all.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLike the poster above using the world cup final ratings as a benchmark, using a sample size of one to illustrate a point concerning the overall landscape is idiotic at best. To your point about D1 attendance, in 2016 the top 10 schools for attendance averaged roughly 1,900 on the girls side and 2,800 on the boys side. Your bias is not unlike the bias any other parent has on both the girls and boys side. You get to see only a narrow glimpse of the overall soccer landscape. The edge the women's game does have is that it's easier to get d1 scholarships not only due to the 16-9.9 advantage in available scholarships, but also the global competition for spots on the men's side. With a higher percentage of local girls playing at top schools due to the lack of true global influence in the game, you get more families involved longer on the girls side, creating the illusion of more interest on the girls side from the perspective of those involved in youth soccer. Outside of the immediate soccer world parents see, the quality of the product always wins out, and as a whole the men's game is vastly superior product. Despite its standing as a minnow on the world stage, MLS attendance is 2-2.5 times greater than NWSL attendance, a league showcasing some of the worlds greatest players on the women's side. I personally enjoy and support the women's game in this country, but very few who don't have direct involvement in the game choose to watch, outside of the major events like a world cup final. Happy holidays to all.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWell reasoned argument, but didn't change my mind. An n of 10 is also statistically insufficient and the sample bias of the top 10 is obvious. Elevating the issue to professional leagues is mis-direction from the question about "girls". Just ask your kids where boys soccer stands in the social hierarchy at their HS.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWell reasoned argument, but didn't change my mind. An n of 10 is also statistically insufficient and the sample bias of the top 10 is obvious. Elevating the issue to professional leagues is mis-direction from the question about "girls". Just ask your kids where boys soccer stands in the social hierarchy at their HS.
How sports and social hierarchy fit together.
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14 and under edge girls
High school age even
College slight edge boys
Pro no comparison - men
National teams even or slight edge men (interest in team not success)
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post14 and under edge girls
High school age even
College slight edge boys
Pro no comparison - men
National teams even or slight edge men (interest in team not success)
I give girls edge through HS
Agrer that edge shifts to men in college and definately pros
As for NT, success and interest can not be unbundled so women get edge, but men would get it if they were competitive
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis is the right taxonomy.
I give girls edge through HS
Agrer that edge shifts to men in college and definately pros
As for NT, success and interest can not be unbundled so women get edge, but men would get it if they were competitive
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