Ranger Nation Conquers TBU in Carrollwood

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Do most clubs have ALL daddy and mommy coaches..

does tbu,wff,clerwater charger have 90-95% daddy coaches

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Sorry but when you have a daddy coach, their number one priority is their kid. Their kid might be the worse one on the team but I bet they play them. Dady coaches should not coach their own kid. Half of the daddy coaches kids only make the team because daddy is the coach. screw the other kids, just take care of your own right.

At all of these clubs, daddy/mommy coaches are involved and as they realize its time to move on they do or should. I have seen some very good and some very bad situations over the years. If an adult can teach the game and all the players like the daddy coach and he has success the parents who complain are misinformed and they are the one's looking for excuses as to why their kid is not playing.

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At all of these clubs, daddy/mommy coaches are involved and as they realize its time to move on they do or should. I have seen some very good and some very bad situations over the years. If an adult can teach the game and all the players like the daddy coach and he has success the parents who complain are misinformed and they are the one's looking for excuses as to why their kid is not playing.

Many clubs simply do not allow a parent to coach their own child. At a number of these clubs there are dads coaching different teams and while I never quite understood that....don't kid yourself; the better clubs do not allow a head coach to be the parent of a player once hitting U9. And doesn't it just make sense as perception will trump any type of reality.

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Many clubs simply do not allow a parent to coach their own child. At a number of these clubs there are dads coaching different teams and while I never quite understood that....don't kid yourself; the better clubs do not allow a head coach to be the parent of a player once hitting U9. And doesn't it just make sense as perception will trump any type of reality.

Go look at TBU's U11 Boys Red North team; dad coach- #1 in the State BTW- just won Atlanta Cup I think in the highest division.
Last year's TBU U11 Girls Red Coach: dad coach

Chargers Tampa U16 Girls Team; Grand dad coach
Chargers Tampa U17 Girls Team; dad coach

It happens even at these bigger clubs.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;1358785]Go look at TBU's U11 Boys Red North team; dad coach- #1 in the State BTW- just won Atlanta Cup I think in the highest division.
Last year's TBU U11 Girls Red Coach: dad coach

Chargers Tampa U16 Girls Team; Grand dad coach
Chargers Tampa U17 Girls Team; dad coach

It happens even at these bigger clubs.[/Q

What about the ultimate dad coach GF at TBU. Isnt he coaching his sons u11 team even though he is the girls DOC? How does that one work?

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Go look at TBU's U11 Boys Red North team; dad coach- #1 in the State BTW- just won Atlanta Cup I think in the highest division.
Last year's TBU U11 Girls Red Coach: dad coach

Chargers Tampa U16 Girls Team; Grand dad coach
Chargers Tampa U17 Girls Team; dad coach

It happens even at these bigger clubs.

There is absolutely no comparison between the percentage of professional, non-parent coaches at TBU/Chargers versus Rangers. To suggest otherwise is just ridiculous. Rangers is heaven for unqualified, can't-let-go helicopter parents. If you want real coaches and trainers, you have to go to a serious club. Rangers isn't a serious club. Rangers is a vanity project for MC and his sycophants.

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Go look at TBU's U11 Boys Red North team; dad coach- #1 in the State BTW- just won Atlanta Cup I think in the highest division.
Last year's TBU U11 Girls Red Coach: dad coach

Chargers Tampa U16 Girls Team; Grand dad coach
Chargers Tampa U17 Girls Team; dad coach

It happens even at these bigger clubs.

So basically you are saying that if the team is successful as far as wins and loses, then it is ok? That is bs. you should not coach your kid at the higher age groups. u11 and up no daddy coaches. ask yourself this, how many of those daddy coaches have their kid playing either cm or striker. the majority do and the reason is because daddy put them there at 5 years old so by the time they are 11 or 12 they should be pretty good at playing the position while the non daddy kid only gets the opportunity when daddy subs out his kid. that's fair right.. put a nonbiased coach in there and see who plays what.

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There is absolutely no comparison between the percentage of professional, non-parent coaches at TBU/Chargers versus Rangers. To suggest otherwise is just ridiculous. Rangers is heaven for unqualified, can't-let-go helicopter parents. If you want real coaches and trainers, you have to go to a serious club. Rangers isn't a serious club. Rangers is a vanity project for MC and his sycophants.

This is not whether a coach is a parent and should be squarely centered on the quality of the coach and commitment of the coach and success the coach has in developing players. Given the size of TBU and Chargers for years both clubs have produced very few success stories so it would help to explain why a parent coach matters.

All these clubs have a patch work of various coaches, no set standards for teaching the game from juniors to seniors and its evident in why you don't see US Soccer taking players from Tampa or from Florida Clubs in general. Look at US Soccer's list and look at the state's where the players are being selected.

Florida has too large a pool of talent not to have as many players being considered as California. Its unfortunate reality. All these clubs are just average and just getting by. No elite soccer but they tell you it is.

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This is not whether a coach is a parent and should be squarely centered on the quality of the coach and commitment of the coach and success the coach has in developing players. Given the size of TBU and Chargers for years both clubs have produced very few success stories so it would help to explain why a parent coach matters.

All these clubs have a patch work of various coaches, no set standards for teaching the game from juniors to seniors and its evident in why you don't see US Soccer taking players from Tampa or from Florida Clubs in general. Look at US Soccer's list and look at the state's where the players are being selected.

Florida has too large a pool of talent not to have as many players being considered as California. Its unfortunate reality. All these clubs are just average and just getting by. No elite soccer but they tell you it is.

The population of California is almost twice the size as Florida.

As we all know, it comes down to $$$, income per capita is higher in California then Florida.

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This is not whether a coach is a parent and should be squarely centered on the quality of the coach and commitment of the coach and success the coach has in developing players. Given the size of TBU and Chargers for years both clubs have produced very few success stories so it would help to explain why a parent coach matters.

All these clubs have a patch work of various coaches, no set standards for teaching the game from juniors to seniors and its evident in why you don't see US Soccer taking players from Tampa or from Florida Clubs in general. Look at US Soccer's list and look at the state's where the players are being selected.

Florida has too large a pool of talent not to have as many players being considered as California. Its unfortunate reality. All these clubs are just average and just getting by. No elite soccer but they tell you it is.

TBU recruits players they don't develop. I had a conversation with one of the head DOCs once.

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This is not whether a coach is a parent and should be squarely centered on the quality of the coach and commitment of the coach and success the coach has in developing players. Given the size of TBU and Chargers for years both clubs have produced very few success stories so it would help to explain why a parent coach matters.

All these clubs have a patch work of various coaches, no set standards for teaching the game from juniors to seniors and its evident in why you don't see US Soccer taking players from Tampa or from Florida Clubs in general. Look at US Soccer's list and look at the state's where the players are being selected.

Florida has too large a pool of talent not to have as many players being considered as California. Its unfortunate reality. All these clubs are just average and just getting by. No elite soccer but they tell you it is.

TBU produced five State Cup finalists this past season, including two State Cup champions. Lutz hasn't produced five State Cup *participants* in it's entire history.

You're a minnow floating next a great white.

Results speak for themselves. A staff of committed, professional coaches and trainers will outperform a staff of well-meaning helicopter parents all day, every day.

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TBU recruits players they don't develop. I had a conversation with one of the head DOCs once.

Very insightful. Hopefully, someone else can fill us in on the top club that turns better talent away and just goes with the kids that joined them at u8. Lol

TBU's u-11 team is number one in the state. I have to credit TBU for investing in the recruiting process of 10 year old kids. I can only imagine the time it took for all those scouts and coaches to sit down at dinner with those 14 parents to get them to commit their 4th graders to the team. It is quite the accomplishment for that u11 coach to not only life those kids onto the team last July, but to mold them into such a team in such a short time is immpresive.


Think about it. To form a successful team from a bunch of new kids so quickly and not use any kids that played at TBU last year is quite a feat!

This poster is totally right. There isn't any coaching talent a TBU, they just benefit from all the local small, area clubs developing the 9 years olds so well. The. They swoop in with promises of cars, under the table cash and autograph deals. It's sad really.

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TBU produced five State Cup finalists this past season, including two State Cup champions. Lutz hasn't produced five State Cup *participants* in it's entire history.

You're a minnow floating next a great white.

Results speak for themselves. A staff of committed, professional coaches and trainers will outperform a staff of well-meaning helicopter parents all day, every day.

You make my point. How many years has HCU/TBU existed? How many players are at TBU? If 5 state cups in the goal you miss the point. How about 5 players on the US u17's or the national team by now? How many players playing professionally or have played in the past? For the size of the club and history the record of sending players to the next level should be the measure and our region has produced very poorly.

Any of these clubs will produced college scholarship players if the players were developed at a young age and works hard at his game and has quality coaching which can be found at either club. The question is, do you want a big club or a small club no different than a small school or a big school.

Both offer value its just a question of perception, cost and at the end was the players skills developed and cultivated and more importantly what life skills did they learn so when the game is history they are success in life. I'd say you have some quality coaches and not so quality coaches at both clubs. All clubs are hit miss, regardless of size.

If you know the game and watch a team play regardless of the players talents and the team is playing the game the right way you have a quality coach. That is what should be judged and a respectable scoreline and good close meaningful matches is what you want.

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Very insightful. Hopefully, someone else can fill us in on the top club that turns better talent away and just goes with the kids that joined them at u8. Lol

TBU's u-11 team is number one in the state. I have to credit TBU for investing in the recruiting process of 10 year old kids. I can only imagine the time it took for all those scouts and coaches to sit down at dinner with those 14 parents to get them to commit their 4th graders to the team. It is quite the accomplishment for that u11 coach to not only life those kids onto the team last July, but to mold them into such a team in such a short time is immpresive.


Think about it. To form a successful team from a bunch of new kids so quickly and not use any kids that played at TBU last year is quite a feat!

This poster is totally right. There isn't any coaching talent a TBU, they just benefit from all the local small, area clubs developing the 9 years olds so well. The. They swoop in with promises of cars, under the table cash and autograph deals. It's sad really.

Looks like a bit of self promotion from the coach here.

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I know this is off the subject but why did a boy on the Rangers u19 get a 18 game suspension ? What did he do ?