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    #16
    You already have this Sunday town league, it is called MAPLE. The end of the year tournament is State Cup. You are an idiot.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      You already have this Sunday town league, it is called MAPLE. The end of the year tournament is State Cup. You are an idiot.
      Different poster. My son's team record against 'Premeirship' teams is about 20 wins and two losses in various tournaments. True, NEP does have many more gullible parents willing to shell out three grand for crap soccer, but nothing else on Maple.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It is time for some level-headed indivuals to step up and fix town soccer. Let the so-called elites have their fun with whatever name they come up with for the next league. The thousands of dollars being spent to play for these clubs is not far short of robbery. MYSA need to step in and offer the majority of families a lower cost option that still provides legitimate training and competition; ditch all the private leagues, restrict field use and provide first opportunity to fields (that we have all paid for) for town teams. Mandate higher level of coaching and provide the resources for it to be attained. Have promotion/relegation be meaningful and make MTOC more important than the MPS sham summer showcase. The privatization of maple and the others have ruined it for all. States with success have no private league; it is run by the state organization ie: minnesota youth soccer, with divisional play. The formats are available for all to follow. Be like Market Basket employees and demand the change by strangling the flow of money and putting the proper people in charge.
        You don't seem to understand that MYSA is the actual problem, not the solution. Mass is one of the few, if not the only state, that allows players to double roster with both a town program and a private club. The reason MYSA does this is because they charge both entities a fee (I think it is $12) for the same player. With supposedly close to 200,000 registered players (though many double counted) in the state the revenue number is actually pretty large. The real issue is that MYSA didn't want to hit the town programs with fee increases so they passed the costs on to the clubs. The clubs started getting pissed off because MYSA was never terribly responsive to their needs so when US Club opened a different pathway they jumped at it. The problem is soccer in this state has evolved in way that is not really found anywhere else in the country. We need to do 4 things in this state

        1- eliminate the dual rostering which would force families to pick either a town or a club program.
        2- institute minimum standards for all town/club programs so that each would be forced provide a minimum level of quality as well as services
        3- limit the number club charters and require that any new club go through an approval process before they open their doors.
        4- force the town leagues to accept teams from clubs in their geographic area and then reposition MAPLE as an open league that the champions from all of those leagues compete in.

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          #19
          What team does your son play and what age. What teams did they beat from NEP and were they their top teams.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You don't seem to understand that MYSA is the actual problem, not the solution. Mass is one of the few, if not the only state, that allows players to double roster with both a town program and a private club. The reason MYSA does this is because they charge both entities a fee (I think it is $12) for the same player. With supposedly close to 200,000 registered players (though many double counted) in the state the revenue number is actually pretty large. The real issue is that MYSA didn't want to hit the town programs with fee increases so they passed the costs on to the clubs. The clubs started getting pissed off because MYSA was never terribly responsive to their needs so when US Club opened a different pathway they jumped at it. The problem is soccer in this state has evolved in way that is not really found anywhere else in the country. We need to do 4 things in this state

            1- eliminate the dual rostering which would force families to pick either a town or a club program.
            2- institute minimum standards for all town/club programs so that each would be forced provide a minimum level of quality as well as services
            3- limit the number club charters and require that any new club go through an approval process before they open their doors.
            4- force the town leagues to accept teams from clubs in their geographic area and then reposition MAPLE as an open league that the champions from all of those leagues compete in.
            Good points.
            But the private leagues must be abolished and have nothing to do with the state program except for those willing to pay whatever exorbitant fees they feel will get their kid to the next level

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              You already have this Sunday town league, it is called MAPLE. The end of the year tournament is State Cup. You are an idiot.
              Stupid. Maple is not run by MYSA.

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                #22
                What is the big deal about dual rostering in MA, and why don't people like it? They also allow it in Rhode Island, and it's not really a big issue (I mean SuperLiga has A LOT of issues, but the dual rostering isn't one of them). I personally think its nice that a player can play club and still play with their town travel team if they want and are able to.

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                  #23
                  maple is now MASC, irrelevant in the state of mass, save SSS on the younger girls side

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    maple is now MASC, irrelevant in the state of mass, save SSS on the younger girls side
                    What?

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      maple is now MASC, irrelevant in the state of mass, save SSS on the younger girls side
                      Hand over the maple trophies to LL.
                      I'm not sure why they bother with this league anymore.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        maple is now MASC, irrelevant in the state of mass, save SSS on the younger girls side
                        Can't wait to see how tournament play on both the boys and girls sides turn out between Maple and NEP clubs. We are entering a stage with the U13s especially where each team has been trained sufficiently at an earlier age since NEP started. This is when it really plays out. Established teams at older ages really don't weigh in much IMO since they were already together.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          maple is now MASC, irrelevant in the state of mass, save SSS on the younger girls side
                          Call it what you want. Many of those clubs that left Maple took some really weak teams that would lose to many decent town teams. Those players are paying a lot of money to say they play in a "premier" league when they are in a bracket that is not premier at all. They get second class coaches from those clubs and play other weak teams. Many of those same players double roster at the younger age groups on town teams that are stronger and play in town travel divisions that are stronger. Just look at the Maple standings before they left. There were plenty of town teams beating the 2nd and 3rd teams from CSU and others. Moving to Nep doesn't make their teams any more Elite just makes them feel elite, but the reality is they aren't. This way they won't have to explain to the paying parents why their elite teams are being beaten by town teams who are paying $100 per season while they pay astronomically more. They are funding the club and that's why they have the lower teams. The fact that they schedule 3rd, and 4th teams to travel to play games in NH and Maine is such a waste of everyone's time when they could play competitive games right in Massachusetts.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Call it what you want. Many of those clubs that left Maple took some really weak teams that would lose to many decent town teams. Those players are paying a lot of money to say they play in a "premier" league when they are in a bracket that is not premier at all. They get second class coaches from those clubs and play other weak teams. Many of those same players double roster at the younger age groups on town teams that are stronger and play in town travel divisions that are stronger. Just look at the Maple standings before they left. There were plenty of town teams beating the 2nd and 3rd teams from CSU and others. Moving to Nep doesn't make their teams any more Elite just makes them feel elite, but the reality is they aren't. This way they won't have to explain to the paying parents why their elite teams are being beaten by town teams who are paying $100 per season while they pay astronomically more. They are funding the club and that's why they have the lower teams. The fact that they schedule 3rd, and 4th teams to travel to play games in NH and Maine is such a waste of everyone's time when they could play competitive games right in Massachusetts.
                            Funny you only mentioned CSU! Plus you don't know as much as you think you do. CSU 3&4 teams pay less than one thousand for the year. Pretty sure that's a little more than 50% less than the top 4 clubs 3rd & 4 th teams. Also think you are, if not incorrect from ignorance, then definitely trying to deceive the silent majority. The divisions for the 3&4 teams in NEP are grouped regionally, with a couple of exceptions, into north and south. Lastly stop acting like the drive to Maine is all the way up in Caribou. Portland Me. Is the same drive time as, from the Cape to Ludlow. In fact the average amount of travel in the NEP has been proven to be roughly the same as MAPLE, and in the case of the lower divisions a lot less. Last time I checked MAPLE teams haven't regionalized the 3rd division. The post smells like a certain husband and wife team trying to justify the direction they have taken their business. IMO, you would get a lot more traction if you stopped trying to tear down others, and sold yourself as the alternative and educating them why you've gone in this direction.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Different poster. My son's team record against 'Premeirship' teams is about 20 wins and two losses in various tournaments. True, NEP does have many more gullible parents willing to shell out three grand for crap soccer, but nothing else on Maple.
                              This is a joke. Nice try.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Funny you only mentioned CSU! Plus you don't know as much as you think you do. CSU 3&4 teams pay less than one thousand for the year. Pretty sure that's a little more than 50% less than the top 4 clubs 3rd & 4 th teams. Also think you are, if not incorrect from ignorance, then definitely trying to deceive the silent majority. The divisions for the 3&4 teams in NEP are grouped regionally, with a couple of exceptions, into north and south. Lastly stop acting like the drive to Maine is all the way up in Caribou. Portland Me. Is the same drive time as, from the Cape to Ludlow. In fact the average amount of travel in the NEP has been proven to be roughly the same as MAPLE, and in the case of the lower divisions a lot less. Last time I checked MAPLE teams haven't regionalized the 3rd division. The post smells like a certain husband and wife team trying to justify the direction they have taken their business. IMO, you would get a lot more traction if you stopped trying to tear down others, and sold yourself as the alternative and educating them why you've gone in this direction.
                                Only mentioned CSU because they're such a joke!

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