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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Once again you are wrong but hey who am I to piss on your agenda. Here is what the message functionally boils down to. If your kid is really good it doesn't matter who they play for or where they play, they will be found. Those that will tell you otherwise are just trying to sell roster spots. That's a widely held truth that only seems to get attacked here on TS.
    That message has been heard 500 times already here on TS. But no doubt the 501st time is greatly appreciated.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      That message has been heard 500 times already here on TS. But no doubt the 501st time is greatly appreciated.
      So what are you actually selling then? Your message certainly appears to be the opposite, that more depends on having money and connections than actual talent. Based upon your thousands of posts here on TS you actually come across quite angry apparently because you or your offspring apparently had little of any of it.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        So what are you actually selling then? Your message certainly appears to be the opposite, that more depends on having money and connections than actual talent. Based upon your thousands of posts here on TS you actually come across quite angry apparently because you or your offspring apparently had little of any of it.
        There's your "bogieman" again, BTDT.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          There's your "bogieman" again, BTDT.
          Well regardless of who wrote it, it certainly does explain where Perspective is coming from doesn't it?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Well regardless of who wrote it, it certainly does explain where Perspective is coming from doesn't it?
            That "logic" is beyond my meager grasp.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Why can't some of you take great advice and just leave it at that. Not everyone is the boogie man. You assume that this happened recently when my read was it happened somewhat in the past. That time difference actually impacts a lot. You also assume that they are fudging this because they use a term you are not familiar with when the reality is just as likely that they were just doing this in another state. Premier is a somewhat common term in other regions for what we refer to as the "club" level. If you want to knock his "agenda" then you really should understand what this guy would likely be looking at to truly understand the nuance of his comments. It is not what you apparently think.

              In other states the club scene is organized very differently from what we have here. First of all in most states they don't just let anyone start up clubs where ever they want. Just like in Rhode Island, the clubs need permission to open up and operate. As a result, most clubs are quite a bit larger in other states. Most operate their own in house leagues that encompass different levels of competition (Rec, Travel) all within the club. Functionally their version of BAYS if you will, accept that they also would have a DAP and ECNL program for the very top end players as well. As a result it is quite common for players in other states to not actually play against players from other clubs until they climb up the competitive ladder a fair amount.

              One thing that is also very different in other parts of the country is there are not as many "top" level teams as there are around here. Imagine if only one club had been granted the right to operate ALL levels of the soccer in eastern Mass. That is what goes on in many states. Typically that club would have one top level team and it would have all THE best players in the eastern region of the state on it. That would truly be a tough team to make so you may very well have very talented players that are certainly capable of playing at the D1 college level that might never make the "premier" team in the club.

              The amount of control other clubs have over players is also one of the reasons ODP is much more popular in other parts of the country. Since they can't just change clubs like around here, in a lot of cases ODP is the ONLY way a player is going to be able to step outside of the shadow of their club to get any shot at recognition. Imagine how some of those parents feel?

              The bottom line to this supposed anti-club "agenda" that we seem to be talking about is there is just a different reality of what "club" is out there than what we have around here. Here we can shop around and pick the situation that suits our needs the best. If we want our player to be on an elite level team we just shop around until we find a spot. In other places your player really has no other option but to earn that spot by being better than a whole lot more players who also have no other option. One of the things we never seem to grasp around here is that our "elite" players might functionally only be elite in name only. This has huge ramifications , particularly when it comes to recruiting.
              Then it's very odd that you are one that shows up to set everyone straight. Your last line is the point your really want to make, along with the chronic diss to clubs and especially one club, and that is that the "elite" around here really aren't elite at all and you want to make sure you have adequatedly jammed that down the throats of any parents who might be a little excited about their kids. You make certain that you add a little gloom to everyone's day.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Once again you are wrong but hey who am I to piss on your agenda. Here is what the message functionally boils down to. If your kid is really good it doesn't matter who they play for or where they play, they will be found. Those that will tell you otherwise are just trying to sell roster spots. That's a widely held truth that only seems to get attacked here on TS.
                You say the poster is wrong and yet it is you who just happened be around to be the one to let us know. Thanks for being so on top of this.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Well regardless of who wrote it, it certainly does explain where Perspective is coming from doesn't it?
                  You know when he confirms a post when you see "well, regardless of who wrote it." And, no, P has appeared quite content with his own situation. Sounds like his kids have exceled by any reasonable measure.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Then it's very odd that you are one that shows up to set everyone straight. Your last line is the point your really want to make, along with the chronic diss to clubs and especially one club, and that is that the "elite" around here really aren't elite at all and you want to make sure you have adequatedly jammed that down the throats of any parents who might be a little excited about their kids. You make certain that you add a little gloom to everyone's day.
                    The post you are referring to was addressing what another poster cited as an "agenda". As the post pointed out there is another reality that they clearly didn't see. As far as your specific point, guess if that club's supporters you are so worried about weren't always on here trying to posture their club and the league they play in as the best of the best instead of recognizing where they (and all of the other clubs around here) fit into the grand scheme of things no one would need these little "reality checks". Sorry if reality doesn't fit with your little narrative.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The post you are referring to was addressing what another poster cited as an "agenda". As the post pointed out there is another reality that they clearly didn't see. As far as your specific point, guess if that club's supporters you are so worried about weren't always on here trying to posture their club and the league they play in as the best of the best instead of recognizing where they (and all of the other clubs around here) fit into the grand scheme of things no one would need these little "reality checks". Sorry if reality doesn't fit with your little narrative.
                      You are a gift from heaven. What would people do if they didn't have you to rely on to inform them, multiple times a day, how un-elite they really are?

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You are a gift from heaven. What would people do if they didn't have you to rely on to inform them, multiple times a day, how un-elite they really are?
                        So here is your opportunity to set the record straight. Why don't you first of all explain what in that post was incorrect information and then instead of harping on your agenda theme, why don't you explain how you think none of those environmental factors have any bearing on why your favored club/league?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          So here is your opportunity to set the record straight. Why don't you first of all explain what in that post was incorrect information and then instead of harping on your agenda theme, why don't you explain how you think none of those environmental factors have any bearing on why your favored club/league?
                          Let's assume for the sake of argument that all of your information is correct, on all topics. Why do you have to re-post all of the same info and views every 3 hours, every day?

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Let's assume for the sake of argument that all of your information is correct, on all topics. Why do you have to re-post all of the same info and views every 3 hours, every day?
                            This post above and this quote below speaks volumes about the situation doesn't it?

                            “Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are*presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new*evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is*extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it*is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,*ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.”*―*Frantz Fanon,*Black Skin, White Masks

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              This post above and this quote below speaks volumes about the situation doesn't it?

                              “Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are*presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new*evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is*extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it*is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,*ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.”*―*Frantz Fanon,*Black Skin, White Masks
                              Everything in BTDT's interest "speaks volumes," and always exactly they way he want to hear it and "retweet" it. What he thinks is speaking volumes in this instance isn't clear.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Everything in BTDT's interest "speaks volumes," and always exactly they way he want to hear it and "retweet" it. What he thinks is speaking volumes in this instance isn't clear.
                                You have a platform why aren't you using it to set the record straight as far as you see it? This is a forum after all and that is what one does in one. The simple answer is you are using it to express your platform except that platform isn't about soccer it is about attacking BTDT and none of the soccer issues actually matter to you.

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