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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    In our team there is 1 player that is only there because of parent manager/relationship with the coach. It’s painfully obvious and sad for the player.

    On playing time, for tournaments and cup games I recommend laying out clear expectations to the parents so they don’t expect equal playing time (especially when travel is involved!!). If they know ahead of time that their kid might not see hardly any playing time, they may re-think whether devoting the weekend to far away soccer is worth it. And if they complain - well, they were forewarned.
    We had one where the manager/board member/in with the director player deserved to be on the team, but had to start and play majority minutes or she got “grumpy” and the coach suffered. Everyone complained to each other but otherwise kept quiet. Rumor was your own player would suffer if you spoke up. Felt bad for the player because everyone knew and didn’t like her much because of it. Felt worse for the players that sat so a lesser but politically favored one played. The team no doubt lost games because of it too. Not having to actually compete for minutes also does those political players a disservice because they aren’t pushed to improve as much and will suffer down the line because of it. A smart parent would realize that and would tell the coach no kid gloves or special treatment. Life and soccer aren’t fair but what goes around will come around.

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      #17
      League play, first couple games in a tournament. Group play etc. If a player is working hard and the only issue is they just aren't that good, 35% seems about minimum. 70 minute game that's 20+ minutes. A good stretch of 10+ minutes per half. But I think you have to communicate that to the player, what you need to see, how they can improve. And if they are improving I think it's important to reward them with a few more minutes.


      If the parents don't bring them to a practice, at some point you'll cut that time in half. It's not "fair" to the other players. Plus, if the teams tactics are evolving and becoming more complex, this player will not only get behind, they will bring the team down

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        In our team there is 1 player that is only there because of parent manager/relationship with the coach. It’s painfully obvious and sad for the player.

        On playing time, for tournaments and cup games I recommend laying out clear expectations to the parents so they don’t expect equal playing time (especially when travel is involved!!). If they know ahead of time that their kid might not see hardly any playing time, they may re-think whether devoting the weekend to far away soccer is worth it. And if they complain - well, they were forewarned.
        Same.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          GK PT is another tricky one. Having only one GK carries big risks. If there are two, PT should be equal, either one half each or one full game each. Don't put your GK on a team with 3 keepers. Guaranteed one parent will go mental over PT and make for a very long season
          My kid at you her ages has played as the only keeper on teams and with 2 on the team as well. It’s Most always been equal PT, except in a few instances where the other one was pulled for “not having head in game “ or injuries etc.

          These were sub u15. After that they’ve played full time and have had a back up(practice kid)

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            My kid at you her ages has played as the only keeper on teams and with 2 on the team as well. It’s Most always been equal PT, except in a few instances where the other one was pulled for “not having head in game “ or injuries etc.

            These were sub u15. After that they’ve played full time and have had a back up(practice kid)
            My dd’s team did it the same way but she knows other keepers on hs aged teams where each keeper plays half a game, even when one keeper is clearly a back up/practice player. On many teams, keeper is the only position where playing time doesn’t need to be earned. Field player subs are a dime a dozen but fear of not having a back up keeper, keeps those back up keeper pt minutes way up.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              My dd’s team did it the same way but she knows other keepers on hs aged teams where each keeper plays half a game, even when one keeper is clearly a back up/practice player. On many teams, keeper is the only position where playing time doesn’t need to be earned. Field player subs are a dime a dozen but fear of not having a back up keeper, keeps those back up keeper pt minutes way up.
              You have to develop two keepers, especially U14+. Injuries happen, so do other reasons to be absent. In order to do that they either need a half game each, or every other game. There's pros and cons to both methods. A coach who won't put in any effort to do that is lazy and doesn't care about the position. If you have a GK stay away from those kinds of coaches. HS and college teams GK PT is 100% earned, same with a lot of DA clubs. Your starter is your starter and they'll play all the minutes unless injured or it's obviously an easy opponent. But at the youth level it's in the team's benefit to have two kids learning and improving

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You have to develop two keepers, especially U14+. Injuries happen, so do other reasons to be absent. In order to do that they either need a half game each, or every other game. There's pros and cons to both methods. A coach who won't put in any effort to do that is lazy and doesn't care about the position. If you have a GK stay away from those kinds of coaches. HS and college teams GK PT is 100% earned, same with a lot of DA clubs. Your starter is your starter and they'll play all the minutes unless injured or it's obviously an easy opponent. But at the youth level it's in the team's benefit to have two kids learning and improving
                Half game each works better if there are unlimited substitutions--last thing you want is for your second-half keeper to come in, get injured, and not be able to bring your first-half keeper back in.

                And getting keepers time in the field so they are comfortable with the ball at their feet is important.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You have to develop two keepers, especially U14+. Injuries happen, so do other reasons to be absent. In order to do that they either need a half game each, or every other game. There's pros and cons to both methods. A coach who won't put in any effort to do that is lazy and doesn't care about the position. If you have a GK stay away from those kinds of coaches. HS and college teams GK PT is 100% earned, same with a lot of DA clubs. Your starter is your starter and they'll play all the minutes unless injured or it's obviously an easy opponent. But at the youth level it's in the team's benefit to have two kids learning and improving
                  If you’re the keeper that plays all game, it’s not a bad situation.

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