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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Look it up
    I don’t have to, I know the rules. Why don’t you post your findings, seems like you’re a man who knows stuff.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Look it up
      they arent on the team yet
      try-out dates are posted by CIAC, THAT IS THE OFFICIAL START of their HS team

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        This is completely false.
        The no coaching rule doesn't apply to incoming freshman. It should, but it doesn't.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The no coaching rule doesn't apply to incoming freshman. It should, but it doesn't.
          So if he has a lot of Westport freshman 10+ on his premier CFC team in spring is it a violation ? Or do they need to not make Varsity for it to not be a violation?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            So if he has a lot of Westport freshman 10+ on his premier CFC team in spring is it a violation ? Or do they need to not make Varsity for it to not be a violation?
            Varsity does matter as a rule it’s 5 or less

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Varsity does matter as a rule it’s 5 or less
              Actually I think its 6, but yes just varsity. They don't want players to feel pressured to play club for their HS coach.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Actually I think its 6, but yes just varsity. They don't want players to feel pressured to play club for their HS coach.
                It’s not just varsity it’s 6 kids in the program, other wise it’s breaking the rules

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  It’s not just varsity it’s 6 kids in the program, other wise it’s breaking the rules
                  Doesn't he coach some crappy CFC branch? Not sure it matters.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It’s not just varsity it’s 6 kids in the program, other wise it’s breaking the rules
                    Untrue- it’s varsity
                    It also goes to the jr transfer rule- if you were a varsity player you sit 8 games if not you play day 1 at your new school

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Untrue- it’s varsity
                      It also goes to the jr transfer rule- if you were a varsity player you sit 8 games if not you play day 1 at your new school
                      And like someone else said, 5 or less directly coaching, not just at same club.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The coach can do whatever he wants with incoming freshman, no violation. The coach can do anything relating to conditioning with the entire team, no violation (as long as it doesn’t involve a soccer ball). Attending summer league games or captains practices is a risk I wouldn’t take as a head coach (and not very common), all it takes is one person notifying CIAC for whatever reason and it’s a headache that you don’t want to have to deal with. Even if you weren’t “coaching”.
                        We have a coach that is at EVERYTHING and i mean EVERYTHING. oddly enough he knows jack about the game and he seeks out track stars. He watches and notes the fast kids. Funny shaite

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The coach can do whatever he wants with incoming freshman, no violation. The coach can do anything relating to conditioning with the entire team, no violation (as long as it doesn’t involve a soccer ball). Attending summer league games or captains practices is a risk I wouldn’t take as a head coach (and not very common), all it takes is one person notifying CIAC for whatever reason and it’s a headache that you don’t want to have to deal with. Even if you weren’t “coaching”.
                          As long as the coach sits on the parents side during summer league games and isn't actively coaching them, then there's no issue with that either.

                          Captains' practices are by definition illegal, depending on what constitutes such a practice. There is no rule against players working out together with a ball. It's all about context.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            As long as the coach sits on the parents side during summer league games and isn't actively coaching them, then there's no issue with that either.

                            Captains' practices are by definition illegal, depending on what constitutes such a practice. There is no rule against players working out together with a ball. It's all about context.
                            Better programs don't run captain's practices but summer camps coached by someone the HS coach hires. The coach often watches on the sidelines and certainly talks to the summer coaches of site. It's kind of a joke really but I guess keeps CIAC happy

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              It’s not just varsity it’s 6 kids in the program, other wise it’s breaking the rules
                              From the CIAC regulations......

                              Some direct Q&A from the CIAC regulations:

                              CIAC IN-SEASON AND OUT-OF-SEASON QUESTIONS
                              1. Are volunteer or unpaid coaches granted any special immunity with respect to out-ofseason
                              coaching rules?

                              No. A volunteer coach is considered the same as all coaches on the coaching staff of a specific sport and must abide by all CIAC rules and regulations. In fact, according to the StateDepartment of Education regulations, all volunteer coaches who coach or instruct athletes must be certified.

                              2. May a coach call an out-of-season meeting of his/her players to provide off-season “selfhelp” suggestions or workout programs to help athletes improve their conditioning and/or skills?

                              Yes. One meeting between coach and players for the purpose of providing off-season
                              suggestions or workout programs is permitted. However, the meeting may not be designed to offer coaches the opportunities to instruct athletes on improvement of skills.

                              3. May CIAC member schools permit their coaches to inform their players, through
                              announcements, posters, letters, of sports specific opportunities, such as camps, clinics,
                              leagues, etc.

                              Yes, but coaches may not organize, supervise, coach or instruct member school athletes out-ofseason except as provided for through exceptions to 2.1.b.

                              4. May a coach (including a volunteer coach) call an out-of-season school team meeting for the purpose of organizing summertime practices or captain’s practices?

                              No. Rule 2.1.c. states: Member schools may not organize or permit coaches to organize,
                              supervise or operate athletic practice which includes captain’s practices.

                              5. May an individual who is not a member of the coaching staff for that sport and who has not worked with a team during the season organize an out-of-season practice?

                              Yes. These individuals are not school coaches and have no coaching connection with the team. However, there may be no involvement with the school coaching staff.

                              6. May a coach who has been hired by a school, but not yet coached in that school, coach and instruct his/her member school athletes from that school during the summer prior to
                              assuming his/her coaching duties?

                              No. A new coach must comply with the CIAC out-of-season regulation. A new coach and a
                              returning coach are treated the same.

                              7. May a freshman coach who has no contact with the varsity team, coach or instruct next
                              year’s varsity team in a summer league?

                              No. All coaches on the staff (volunteer, freshman, JV or varsity) for that sport are prohibited from coaching “member school athletes” as defined in 2.1.b.

                              8. May a coach (including volunteer coaches) who worked exclusively with soccer goalies
                              during the season, coach the school’s soccer team during the summer?

                              No. All coaches (including volunteer coaches) must comply with the CIAC out-of-season
                              regulation.

                              9. May a coach conduct an out-of-season non-mandatory workout, for members of his/her
                              team where well designed aerobic, stretching, plyometrics, other physical fitness activities
                              and interval training techniques are used?

                              Yes. But the training techniques cannot be sports specific and must comply with regulation 2.5.4. which in part states that the equipment of the sport may not be used.

                              10. May a coach mandate out-of-season conditioning for all of his/her athletes?

                              No. Coaches are not allowed to mandate out-of-season conditioning or practices.

                              11. What is a non-school team?

                              A non-school team is one which is not sponsored or organized by the school and for which the school assumes no liability.

                              12. May a non-school team be comprised of only those athletes which make up the school team the previous season?

                              Yes. A non-school team can be made up of only those athletes from the previous season.
                              However, if the high school coaches or their school are involved in organizing, coaching or
                              instructing those athletes it would be a school team practicing out-of-season.

                              13. May a JV baseball coach also coach his own players in the summer on a Babe Ruth team?

                              Yes. However, if any of those players have eligibility remaining he may not coach more than five member school baseball players on that team as specified on the chart in 2.1.b.3.

                              14. Does my son or daughter count as one of the maximum number specified by CIAC that I may coach or instruct in a non-school team during the summer?

                              Yes. However, a coach may coach his son or daughter any time as an individual.

                              15. As a long time high school coach, may I organize and supervise a summer camp which
                              consists of my athletes from last year as long as I do not coach or instruct them as an
                              exclusive team unit and they don’t exceed more than 10% of total number of participants?

                              Yes. As long as he/she is not coaching or instructing any of those athletes as an exclusive team unit.

                              16. May a coach play on the same summer team with some of his players or participate in a tennis or golf match without causing a violation?

                              Yes, as long as there is no coaching or instruction.

                              17. May a coach lend a helmet to a player for an out-of-season event?

                              Yes. All equipment must not identify the school name or school logo.

                              18. May a booster club finance camp expenses for member school athletes?

                              Yes, but only if the booster club is financially independent of the school. The answer would be no if school personnel were involved with the management and disbursement of booster club funds.

                              19. May a coach who is both a girls and boys swim coach, coach in a summer camp with 10% of his girls team and 10% of his boys team at the same time, not as exclusive team units?

                              Yes. The regulation is an exclusive team regulation.

                              20. As a freshman volleyball coach may I work at a camp where there are 100 total athletes enrolled and 10 of those athletes are freshman from my high school team while at the same camp the varsity coach is working there and 10 varsity players are also attending?

                              No, the 10% camp rule relates to the entire team enrollment and not by level. The most athletes from that team that can attend in a camp of 100 athletes would be 10.

                              21. May a member school coach coach one non-school team per year provided no more than the number of member school athletes specified in the chart (found in 2.1.b.3.) are on the out of-season team roster?

                              Yes. However, the roster must remain fixed.

                              22. May five different football coaches from the same staff each coach a separate team of six of their players with eligibility remaining in a summer passing league?

                              Yes. The regulation states a football coach may coach a maximum of six (6) of his member
                              school athletes in a non-school team setting, and since the teams are separate, each coach would be in compliance with the regulation. It would be a violation if any of these non-school teams combined, since the number of member school athletes would then exceed the limit of six, regardless of the number of coaches on the staff.


                              There's a couple more pages of questions, but these should cover the scope of this discussion.

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                                So - based on the lengthy read the Staples Coach cannot coach more than 6 players from his program (all levels) in the winter or spring on his CFC U15 team. I would bet there are more than 6 on his roster.

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