So what colleges are showing significant interest in your kid?

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Just because they watch your player doesn't mean she'll land a spot. Take a look at the academic requirements for Ivies. Like they say - they hardest part about Harvard is getting in. If your income is low enough she could qualify for a virtual free ride and subsequent golden ticket. But that's also why the competition is so fierce to get in. At D3s and Ivies you get in based on your academics, not sports. Good thing coaches can help you get a pre-read with the admissions office to make sure you should get in.
However if she's in that upper academic echelon she'll still have loads of other good opportunities at high quality academic schools with fantastically large endowments. Combined with some financial aid (again depends on income) she could attend a high quality school for not a lot of money. The dividends of graduating with a "name" school will be long lasting for jobs, internships, grad school etc. But so is graduating from a good school with zero debt. There's so many things to consider. The trick is finding which ones to target so that the school wants you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/troyoni.../#343d563c1373

https://www.forbes.com/sites/troyoni.../#4fdbf9d84e28

good luck - not the op

Thanks, but not sure why you put so much energy into explaining something so poorly. You can't lump D3's and Ivies into the same category. I'm not going to take the time to explain it to you, but anyone with a kid in that position should do their own homework. It's academic anyway, how many kids realistically play soccer at either D3 or Ivy from Florida each year? 1 or 2 maybe? I hope they're not looking for advice on TS.

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Thanks, but not sure why you put so much energy into explaining something so poorly. You can't lump D3's and Ivies into the same category. I'm not going to take the time to explain it to you, but anyone with a kid in that position should do their own homework. It's academic anyway, how many kids realistically play soccer at either D3 or Ivy from Florida each year? 1 or 2 maybe? I hope they're not looking for advice on TS.

not the poster but they are similar in that 1) neither D3 or Ivy schools have athletic money, 2) the focus is on academics, and 3) the coach rarely has any ability to get you in if your grades and scores aren't up to par with the admissions office. Not many kids around here go to D3 (or Ivy) schools because most of the better ones are far from here and many kids don't want to have to fly to college.

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not the poster but they are similar in that 1) neither D3 or Ivy schools have athletic money, 2) the focus is on academics, and 3) the coach rarely has any ability to get you in if your grades and scores aren't up to par with the admissions office. Not many kids around here go to D3 (or Ivy) schools because most of the better ones are far from here and many kids don't want to have to fly to college.

forgot #4 - the soccer is generally not very good for the Ivy league schools and most Ds programs out side of the top 15-20%.

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not the poster but they are similar in that 1) neither D3 or Ivy schools have athletic money, 2) the focus is on academics, and 3) the coach rarely has any ability to get you in if your grades and scores aren't up to par with the admissions office. Not many kids around here go to D3 (or Ivy) schools because most of the better ones are far from here and many kids don't want to have to fly to college.

Ivy Coaches can commit players to admit, D3 cannot. Ivy tuition and fees are 100% need-based (no athletic or academic money), students graduate debt-free. D3 schools have some financial aid, but limited and includes loans. "many kids don't want to have to fly to college"? Seriously? Florida kids are committing to D1 schools all over the country. You think flying is stopping anyone from attending an Ivy League school? C'mon man.

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forgot #4 - the soccer is generally not very good for the Ivy league schools and most Ds programs out side of the top 15-20%.

Easy enough to find out. Just look on the roster of those teams.

Ivy League

Princeton 1
Brown 1
Columbia 2 - 2 form GA as well:-)
Cornell 0
Dartmouth 0
Harvard 0 - 1 from GA
Univ of Penn 0
Yale 4

California has the most out of state players on these roster by far..

D3 schools of consequence

MIT 0
John Hopkins 1
Carnegie Mellon 1
WPI 0
Washington & Lee 1
NYU 4
Chicago 2

A few others I am sure I left out but an interesting study subject for sure.

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Easy enough to find out. Just look on the roster of those teams.

Ivy League

Princeton 1
Brown 1
Columbia 2 - 2 form GA as well:-)
Cornell 0
Dartmouth 0
Harvard 0 - 1 from GA
Univ of Penn 0
Yale 4

California has the most out of state players on these roster by far..

D3 schools of consequence

MIT 0
John Hopkins 1
Carnegie Mellon 1
WPI 0
Washington & Lee 1
NYU 4
Chicago 2

A few others I am sure I left out but an interesting study subject for sure.

Forgot that to mention that is from current rosters. There may be other Florida commits. Regardless, not a bad showing for Florida with such a small sample size.

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Thanks, but not sure why you put so much energy into explaining something so poorly. You can't lump D3's and Ivies into the same category. I'm not going to take the time to explain it to you, but anyone with a kid in that position should do their own homework. It's academic anyway, how many kids realistically play soccer at either D3 or Ivy from Florida each year? 1 or 2 maybe? I hope they're not looking for advice on TS.

The above post would show that you are incorrect - 17+ in fact.

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The above post would show that you are incorrect - 17+ in fact.

Please note I said "each year", you're counting 4-year rosters. But you're right, it's more than I expected. I'm surprised by the number at Yale though their roster isn't updated yet. 2 juniors and 2 seniors, and no Florida recruits the past two years. So how many Ivy & D3 recruits committed from Florida this year?

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Please note I said "each year", you're counting 4-year rosters. But you're right, it's more than I expected. I'm surprised by the number at Yale though their roster isn't updated yet. 2 juniors and 2 seniors, and no Florida recruits the past two years. So how many Ivy & D3 recruits committed from Florida this year?

Sorry, forget to also mention that I only searched girls.

Commitment info may be harder to find. Ivy leagues and some of these D3 schools don't offer commitment letters, they give "likely" letters in advance of the student athletes "blind acceptance" meaning, they supposedly don't care how well you kick a soccer ball.

I have never been able to find a list of such "likely" letters acceptance published on the web. I do know that coaches actively help kids who are interested in their schools through the process.

Top drawer soccer shows 2 2017, commits 0 for 2018 and 2 for 2019 for Girls. Of course, you have to be enrolled with Top Drawer to be listed and the player is responsible for updates so there may be more.

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Sorry, forget to also mention that I only searched girls.

Commitment info may be harder to find. Ivy leagues and some of these D3 schools don't offer commitment letters, they give "likely" letters in advance of the student athletes "blind acceptance" meaning, they supposedly don't care how well you kick a soccer ball.

I have never been able to find a list of such "likely" letters acceptance published on the web. I do know that coaches actively help kids who are interested in their schools through the process.

Top drawer soccer shows 2 2017, commits 0 for 2018 and 2 for 2019 for Girls. Of course, you have to be enrolled with Top Drawer to be listed and the player is responsible for updates so there may be more.

You won't find much because all "commits" are verbal, even D1, and it's all basically self reported - either by players or their clubs. No list will ever be complete. Nothing is official with D1 until an NLI is signed. Even D1 schools don't publish their incoming recruit lists until NLIs are signed.

This spreadsheet is excellent but for some reason hasn't been updated in several months. But it gives you some ideas and you can look at this year, a few years back and whatever had been posted for 2018.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...yFYko/pubhtml#

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You won't find much because all "commits" are verbal, even D1, and it's all basically self reported - either by players or their clubs. No list will ever be complete. Nothing is official with D1 until an NLI is signed. Even D1 schools don't publish their incoming recruit lists until NLIs are signed.

This spreadsheet is excellent but for some reason hasn't been updated in several months. But it gives you some ideas and you can look at this year, a few years back and whatever had been posted for 2018.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...yFYko/pubhtml#

You are correct. I knew about posting after the NLI's but the Ivy's and D3 schools are so different in other areas that I wondered if there was a special place they were announced.

So circling back to the numbers, Florida players make up 5.5% of the current rosters for girls not counting those currently in the recruitment process and 6% when those few D3 schools are added in. I know that you can not assume those numbers to be static over a rolling 4 year avg but, that is not too bad.

Three years ago Brown, MIT and one other came to our town for a academic Q&A which I took my son to. After the session I asked why the felt coming to Florida was necessary given entry was so competitive. The Brown admittance rep said they were attempting to get past the stigma that you needed to know someone or be wealthy to attend. They felt the south in general was under represented within their ranks.

In the end, my son's 4.2 gpa, 31 act and 2100 SAT did not cut the mustard (their loss anyway) but damn if I would not have tried to figure a way to pay if he got in. Had he played a sport, maybe that would have helped.....

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You are correct. I knew about posting after the NLI's but the Ivy's and D3 schools are so different in other areas that I wondered if there was a special place they were announced.

So circling back to the numbers, Florida players make up 5.5% of the current rosters for girls not counting those currently in the recruitment process and 6% when those few D3 schools are added in. I know that you can not assume those numbers to be static over a rolling 4 year avg but, that is not too bad.

Three years ago Brown, MIT and one other came to our town for a academic Q&A which I took my son to. After the session I asked why the felt coming to Florida was necessary given entry was so competitive. The Brown admittance rep said they were attempting to get past the stigma that you needed to know someone or be wealthy to attend. They felt the south in general was under represented within their ranks.

In the end, my son's 4.2 gpa, 31 act and 2100 SAT did not cut the mustard (their loss anyway) but damn if I would not have tried to figure a way to pay if he got in. Had he played a sport, maybe that would have helped.....

Unfortunately those numbers, while very good, aren't good enough for the Ivies - they also take huge numbers of international students who are also outstanding students. The competition is absurd really. For all schools in fact. I wouldn't get into to my high academic D3 today with the grades/scores I had. For several years I did local interviews for the school and was usually blown away by the kids applying, many of which didn't get in.

But that's also why families are looking for that hook to get into the more exclusive schools - sports, music, starting a non-profit etc.

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Some dude on the MA boards tracks MA boy's verbal commitments every year. Not surprisingly the DA clubs skew heavier D1, less D3, but that's not always the rule. MA also has tons of highly soccer competitive prep schools and many of those players land D1 spots. The list gives you an idea - the 3 DA clubs are NE Revolution. Bolts and Seacoast. Also the area has so many quality schools so that may skew the scale towards D3 because of location


D1
Ignacio Roitman - FC Stars - Exeter - Boston U
Nathan Plano - Aztec - Reading HS - Brown
Felipe Cypriano - Bolts - Malden - Bryant
Anthony Barreira - FC Stars - Foxboro - Bryant
Sam Hatem - FC Stars - Worcester Academy - Columbia
Cole Venner - Black Rock - Berkshire - UConn
Austin Aviza - Revs - Syracuse - UConn - transfer
Matthew Ranieri - Revs - Nobles&Greenough - Dartmouth
Stephen O'Connell - Black Rock - Berkshire - Duke
Wilhelm Jacques - Bolts - Medford - Duke
Rory Conway - Bolts - Brookline - Harvard
Max Benford - Aztec - Ipswich - Holy Cross
Edi Mujan - Bolts - Revere - Holy Cross
Justin Rennicks - Revs - Hamilton/Wenham - Indiana
Asher Carlson - Princeton SC - NMH - Lafayette
Trey Miller - Revs - Monson - Louisville
Mike Rita - Western United - Minnechaug - UMass
Eli Cronin - Seacoast - Masconomet - UMass
Davis Smith - Dallas Texans - Williston Northampton - UMass
Owen Miller - NEFC - Medford - UMass Lowell
Alex Shterenberg - Revs - Westwood - Michigan St
Nicholas Woodruff - Revs - Attleborough - Michigan St
Jonathan Wolf - NEFC - Worcester Academy - UNH
Adama Kaba - Hammer - St Sebastian - Northeastern
Noah Abrams - Manhattan - Berkshire - Northeastern
Daniel Munch - GPS - BB&N - Northeastern
Jack Roberts - GPS - Nobles&Greenough - Princeton
Ben Ludwick - FC Stars - Acton/Boxborough - PC
Simon Fisher - Bolts - Roxbury Latin - PC
Peter Zecca - GPS - Rivers - St Johns
Edward Walsh - Revs - Westwood - Xavier

D2
Rafael Perez - ? - Tewksbury - AIC
Connor Hicks - Western United - Monson - AIC
Chris Kalil - Western United - Wilbraham&Monson - Assumption
Sebastan Jaramillo - Seacoast - Dracut - Assumption
Hayden Yakola - Liverpool - Nauset - Bentley
Kyle Archambault - Bolts - St Johns Shrewsbury - Bentley
Will Buraczynski - NEFC - Littleton - Merrimack
Drew Lovely - GPS - Weymouth - Merrimack
Neil Mahatme - Seacoast - St John's - Merrimack
Cameron Mullins - Bruno - King Philip - Merrimack*
Mike Coffey - Aztec - Swampscott - St Anselm's
Matteo Bianchini - Aztec - Winchester - St Michael's

D3
Jack O'Brien - GPS - Milton Academy - Amherst
Dylan Steele - GPS - Brooks - Amherst
Sebastian Royo - GPS - Algonquin - Babson
Blaise Marceau - Bolts - Waban - Bates
Max McPherron - GPS - Nobles & Greenough - Bowdoin
Alex Chaban - Bolts - Brooks - Bowdoin
Andy Manos - GPS - NMH - Brandeis
Chris Russo - FC Stars - Westford - Brandeis
Evan Glass - Aztecs - Masconomet - Brandeis
Noah Gans - GPS - Newton South - Brandeis
Kevin Roberts - FC Stars - Medway - Bridgewater St
Sam Hatley - NEFC - ? - Clark
Alberto Butts-Lee - GPS - Worcester Academy - Colby
Walter Thilly - Seacoast - Winchester - Colby
Samson Heyer - FC Stars - Amherst HS - Colorado College
Justin Miranda - Aztec - Winchester - Connecticut College
Liam Donelan - FC Stars - Milton HS - Connecticut College
Alejandro Winsor - GPS - Wakefield - Curry
Grayson Presutti - GPS - Hingham - Denison
Daniel Milhollen - Bolts - Foxboro - Denson
Ian Logan - FC Stars - Westford Academy - Dickinson
Ryan Horan - GPS - Norwell - Franklin & Marshall
Hagop Kouchakdjian - GPS -Lexington - Hamilton
Jack Fell - GPS - Concord Carlisle - Hobart
Jack Herlihy - Aztec - Swampscott - Keene St
Liam Thor - Blackrock FC - Berkshire - Kenyon
Tyler Medierios- GPS - New Bedford Voke - UMass Boston
Mauricio Martinez - Aztecs - Revere - UMass Boston
Justin Burns - GPS - Walpole - Mass Maritime
Matthew Hyer - FC Stars - Groton Dunstable - Middlebury
Jacob LaBranche - Liverpool - Nauset - Middlebury
Marco Kaper - Aztec - Manchester-Essex - Middlebury
Cody Kennedy - ? - Millbury - New England Univ
Tommaso Valagussa - NE Rush - Arlington - RPI
Connor Edwards - Western - NMH - Roger Williams
Josh Polakiewicz - Aztecs - Masconomet - Roger Williams
Shoyo Yanagihara - FC Mass - NMH - Skidmore
James Nicholas - FSA - NMH - St Lawrence
Spencer Nagi - NEFC - Westborough - St Josephs College
Colin Grant - FC Stars - Bromfield - St Joseph's(ME)
Brendan Coyle - Aztecs - Marblehead - Salve Regina
Marvyn Dorchin - Seacoast - Belmont - Springfield
Eli Yamuna - GPS - Dover Sherborn - SUNY Cortland
Jason Meuth - Seacoast - Mansfield - Swarthmore
Jamie Marden - Aztec - Marblehead - Trinity College (CT)
Phineas Santello - Aztec - Arlington - Trinity College (CT)
David Luongo - Benfica - St John's Prep - Trinity College(CT)
Patrick "PK" Kennedy-GPS/Bolts - Thayer - Trinity College (CT)
Quentin van der Lee - Black Rock - Berkshire - Trinity(TX)
Travis van Brewer - Beachside - Minechaug - Tufts*
Omar al-Homsi Hernandez - FC Blazers - Bromfield - Union
Poom Mera - GPS - Swansea - Union
Matthias Loft - GPS - Cohasset - Union
Mauricio Bailleres - NMH/Culver - Wesleyan
Jeremy Richard - Black Rock - Berkshire - Wheaton
Nicholas Ranieri - GPS - Nobles&Greenough - Williams
Jules Oberg - Black Rock - Berkshire - Williams

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Some dude on the MA boards tracks MA boy's verbal commitments every year. Not surprisingly the DA clubs skew heavier D1, less D3, but that's not always the rule. MA also has tons of highly soccer competitive prep schools and many of those players land D1 spots. The list gives you an idea - the 3 DA clubs are NE Revolution. Bolts and Seacoast. Also the area has so many quality schools so that may skew the scale towards D3 because of location


D1
Ignacio Roitman - FC Stars - Exeter - Boston U
Nathan Plano - Aztec - Reading HS - Brown
Felipe Cypriano - Bolts - Malden - Bryant
Anthony Barreira - FC Stars - Foxboro - Bryant
Sam Hatem - FC Stars - Worcester Academy - Columbia
Cole Venner - Black Rock - Berkshire - UConn
Austin Aviza - Revs - Syracuse - UConn - transfer
Matthew Ranieri - Revs - Nobles&Greenough - Dartmouth
Stephen O'Connell - Black Rock - Berkshire - Duke
Wilhelm Jacques - Bolts - Medford - Duke
Rory Conway - Bolts - Brookline - Harvard
Max Benford - Aztec - Ipswich - Holy Cross
Edi Mujan - Bolts - Revere - Holy Cross
Justin Rennicks - Revs - Hamilton/Wenham - Indiana
Asher Carlson - Princeton SC - NMH - Lafayette
Trey Miller - Revs - Monson - Louisville
Mike Rita - Western United - Minnechaug - UMass
Eli Cronin - Seacoast - Masconomet - UMass
Davis Smith - Dallas Texans - Williston Northampton - UMass
Owen Miller - NEFC - Medford - UMass Lowell
Alex Shterenberg - Revs - Westwood - Michigan St
Nicholas Woodruff - Revs - Attleborough - Michigan St
Jonathan Wolf - NEFC - Worcester Academy - UNH
Adama Kaba - Hammer - St Sebastian - Northeastern
Noah Abrams - Manhattan - Berkshire - Northeastern
Daniel Munch - GPS - BB&N - Northeastern
Jack Roberts - GPS - Nobles&Greenough - Princeton
Ben Ludwick - FC Stars - Acton/Boxborough - PC
Simon Fisher - Bolts - Roxbury Latin - PC
Peter Zecca - GPS - Rivers - St Johns
Edward Walsh - Revs - Westwood - Xavier

D2
Rafael Perez - ? - Tewksbury - AIC
Connor Hicks - Western United - Monson - AIC
Chris Kalil - Western United - Wilbraham&Monson - Assumption
Sebastan Jaramillo - Seacoast - Dracut - Assumption
Hayden Yakola - Liverpool - Nauset - Bentley
Kyle Archambault - Bolts - St Johns Shrewsbury - Bentley
Will Buraczynski - NEFC - Littleton - Merrimack
Drew Lovely - GPS - Weymouth - Merrimack
Neil Mahatme - Seacoast - St John's - Merrimack
Cameron Mullins - Bruno - King Philip - Merrimack*
Mike Coffey - Aztec - Swampscott - St Anselm's
Matteo Bianchini - Aztec - Winchester - St Michael's

D3
Jack O'Brien - GPS - Milton Academy - Amherst
Dylan Steele - GPS - Brooks - Amherst
Sebastian Royo - GPS - Algonquin - Babson
Blaise Marceau - Bolts - Waban - Bates
Max McPherron - GPS - Nobles & Greenough - Bowdoin
Alex Chaban - Bolts - Brooks - Bowdoin
Andy Manos - GPS - NMH - Brandeis
Chris Russo - FC Stars - Westford - Brandeis
Evan Glass - Aztecs - Masconomet - Brandeis
Noah Gans - GPS - Newton South - Brandeis
Kevin Roberts - FC Stars - Medway - Bridgewater St
Sam Hatley - NEFC - ? - Clark
Alberto Butts-Lee - GPS - Worcester Academy - Colby
Walter Thilly - Seacoast - Winchester - Colby
Samson Heyer - FC Stars - Amherst HS - Colorado College
Justin Miranda - Aztec - Winchester - Connecticut College
Liam Donelan - FC Stars - Milton HS - Connecticut College
Alejandro Winsor - GPS - Wakefield - Curry
Grayson Presutti - GPS - Hingham - Denison
Daniel Milhollen - Bolts - Foxboro - Denson
Ian Logan - FC Stars - Westford Academy - Dickinson
Ryan Horan - GPS - Norwell - Franklin & Marshall
Hagop Kouchakdjian - GPS -Lexington - Hamilton
Jack Fell - GPS - Concord Carlisle - Hobart
Jack Herlihy - Aztec - Swampscott - Keene St
Liam Thor - Blackrock FC - Berkshire - Kenyon
Tyler Medierios- GPS - New Bedford Voke - UMass Boston
Mauricio Martinez - Aztecs - Revere - UMass Boston
Justin Burns - GPS - Walpole - Mass Maritime
Matthew Hyer - FC Stars - Groton Dunstable - Middlebury
Jacob LaBranche - Liverpool - Nauset - Middlebury
Marco Kaper - Aztec - Manchester-Essex - Middlebury
Cody Kennedy - ? - Millbury - New England Univ
Tommaso Valagussa - NE Rush - Arlington - RPI
Connor Edwards - Western - NMH - Roger Williams
Josh Polakiewicz - Aztecs - Masconomet - Roger Williams
Shoyo Yanagihara - FC Mass - NMH - Skidmore
James Nicholas - FSA - NMH - St Lawrence
Spencer Nagi - NEFC - Westborough - St Josephs College
Colin Grant - FC Stars - Bromfield - St Joseph's(ME)
Brendan Coyle - Aztecs - Marblehead - Salve Regina
Marvyn Dorchin - Seacoast - Belmont - Springfield
Eli Yamuna - GPS - Dover Sherborn - SUNY Cortland
Jason Meuth - Seacoast - Mansfield - Swarthmore
Jamie Marden - Aztec - Marblehead - Trinity College (CT)
Phineas Santello - Aztec - Arlington - Trinity College (CT)
David Luongo - Benfica - St John's Prep - Trinity College(CT)
Patrick "PK" Kennedy-GPS/Bolts - Thayer - Trinity College (CT)
Quentin van der Lee - Black Rock - Berkshire - Trinity(TX)
Travis van Brewer - Beachside - Minechaug - Tufts*
Omar al-Homsi Hernandez - FC Blazers - Bromfield - Union
Poom Mera - GPS - Swansea - Union
Matthias Loft - GPS - Cohasset - Union
Mauricio Bailleres - NMH/Culver - Wesleyan
Jeremy Richard - Black Rock - Berkshire - Wheaton
Nicholas Ranieri - GPS - Nobles&Greenough - Williams
Jules Oberg - Black Rock - Berkshire - Williams

Impressive list. Sadly, most of the NE D3 schools are better academically than most of the schools in Florida. Another reason for kids to look north....providing they can handle the winters. UF is narrowing the gap and consistently ranked in the top 30 public schools in the US. However, playing soccer there athletically is as hard as getting into Harvard academically.

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Be careful everyone when referring to a NLI (National Letter of Intent). So many men's soccer commitments are not solidified with a NLI (since this implies a athletic scholarship). Most are just signing a college letter of commitment. Very different thing. NLI is an official NCAA letter, and you can tell the difference in a picture as a NLI doesn't have a school logo on it. So few incoming freshman Div1 are on a NLI...most is a verbal commitment followed by signing a College Commitment letter which really is non-binding.