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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postdon't disagree in most cases, but there is a lot of science coming from pediatric endocrinology about the "bone age" of a kid being more indicative of development than chronological age and in some cases kids can be up to 3 years behind chronological age with bone age. there seems to be a movement in us soccer federation to recognize these studies to some degree. of course you cannot expect that DA programs have the resources available to determine bone age of their kids. i think this proposal is an effort to keep kids in a DA pool that show a bone age/ chronological lag, however imperfectly that may be determined. as long as this is not abused and is limited, it may help some kids get through a transition period.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMAZ (putting this to identify myself if I continue participation in this dialogue):
Just like I don't buy into the "late bloomers" argument, similarly, I don't buy into the "fastest, strongest, biggest, larger etc" kids are being selected over anyone else for DA teams.
DA selection process is fairly rigorous and it takes weeks to be selected unlike a typical club team that has to make a decision after seeing kid twice for 90 minutes at a time. In a typical club environment, yes, I would agree that size combined with speed (which sometimes go hand in hand) would definitely give you a better chance; however, DA's approach is different. They evaluate kids for longer, seeing them in their natural environment - club games, club practices (through their scouting network), then they would invite you to practice with the existent DA squad at more than multiple occasions to see how your kid sacks up. And it is not the size that will matter - it is who makes the most impact.
Impact on the outcome of the team what will matter. If you're head to head with a current DA's center-D, but larger... well, congrats, we just found a new center-D. Everything else is the same, size helps, otherwise it is who DA think will have a larger impact will make the team.
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It is not absolute size that is the issue. A 5'10 8th grader could be a late bloomer if he's on his way to 6"10 t 20. Similarly a 5'2" 8th grader may actually be an early bloomer if he ends up at 5'5".
The question is really about testosterone levels. So the guy saying size doesn't matter, i agree it doesn't, but testosterone levels do.
Testosterone is a performance enhancing drug. It is in fact an anabolic steroid. Kids well into puberty have a higher muscle mass, and are stronger and faster than prepubertal kids of the same size.
It happens that the rising ESTROGEN levels that occur with puberty in boys (a breakdown product of testosterone is indeed estrogen, increase testosterone, and there is also a proportional increase in estrogen) is the hormone that mediates the adolescent growth spurt. So most early maturing boys are also taller. To compound this effect, there is a prepubertal DECLINE in growth rate in children. So you have the early maturing kids taking off in size and muscle mass while the late maturers don't grow much at all. Hence the large discrepancy in size and body type most notable between 12 and 16 in boys.
Now that my physiology lesson is over, it makes sense to do what is being proposed in offering SOME programming based on physiological age, while keeping some competition based on chronological age. The differences in physical maturation do not correspond directly to intellectual and emotional maturation, that also should be considered especially in a cerebral game such as soccer.
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Now that my physiology lesson is over, it makes sense to do what is being proposed in offering SOME programming based on physiological age, while keeping some competition based on chronological age. The differences in physical maturation do not correspond directly to intellectual and emotional maturation, that also should be considered especially in a cerebral game such as soccer.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYes, this last part is also important. My kid's physiological age is a year behind his chronological age, but because of his intellectual maturity and understanding of the game, he plays up a year. It'll be tough on him as he gets older and is moved back down to his own age, and with the new rule possibly an age level below, because of his physical lag.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLOL... you are not talking about south Florida DA clubs and scouting...no one scouts like that down here especially DA's
Before anyone storms in - this is one of the most active areas and that's why I posted here. Again, DA should be DA regardless of locale. I'd think, FL would have a lot of talented kids compared to midwest for instance just because of how heavily it is "Latino-based" with futbol being in the blood.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMAZ: Yes, you're correct, I am not from FL region, but (my bad) assumed, DA recruitment happens in the same manner across the board. Sorry to heat that's not the case over in Florida.
Before anyone storms in - this is one of the most active areas and that's why I posted here. Again, DA should be DA regardless of locale. I'd think, FL would have a lot of talented kids compared to midwest for instance just because of how heavily it is "Latino-based" with futbol being in the blood.
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