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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWow, BTDT (It is you, btw, right? As always, here we are again.) You get yourself more confused and twisted as you go long.
The analogy with ISL was that if you have talent and don't need an elite club team to make it then if you are smart you don't need an ISL to make it. So if you advise against the former why wouldn't you also advise against the latter.
As far as IMG, isn't that just the type of environment you've been demanding? A special place for special players all appropriately dedicated to the same ambitions?
You also have this ongoing assumption that parents that must be dumb to engage in some of these things always remain dumb. If I sent a kid to Shattuck and she didn't get to play or wasn't advancing in your special way I'd probably bring her back to public school (where all my kids went anyway).
Also, where did you see me ever defend Shattuck or IMG? I've never opined about either one way or the other. And where did you get the idea that I'm an advocate for putting all players in the same pot?
You're a mess, BTNT.
Personally I think places like IMG and Shattuck are stupid because if one has the soccer talent one doesn't actually need any of those trappings to get to another level as long as one is willing to do the work. All places like that really offer a truly talented player is a training structure and a level of intensity that may help them reach their potential. My experience has been that even if one has the potential to be great if one needs all of those sorts of external forces to bring it out one is never going to be great simply because it typically means that the internal drive is really not there and it is that internal drive that actually makes players great.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWow, BTDT (It is you, btw, right? As always, here we are again.) You get yourself more confused and twisted as you go long.
The analogy with ISL was that if you have talent and don't need an elite club team to make it then if you are smart you don't need an ISL to make it. So if you advise against the former why wouldn't you also advise against the latter.
As far as IMG, isn't that just the type of environment you've been demanding? A special place for special players all appropriately dedicated to the same ambitions?
You also have this ongoing assumption that parents that must be dumb to engage in some of these things always remain dumb. If I sent a kid to Shattuck and she didn't get to play or wasn't advancing in your special way I'd probably bring her back to public school (where all my kids went anyway).
Also, where did you see me ever defend Shattuck or IMG? I've never opined about either one way or the other. And where did you get the idea that I'm an advocate for putting all players in the same pot?
You're a mess, BTNT.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe funny thing about this post is the poster clearly forget that he jumped in using his CUJO personality and that the CUJO personality has some baggage that was earnestly gotten through thousands of posts over many years.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe fact that thousands of Ivy league admits each year come from "lesser" (TIC :) )educational institutions like public schools is all the proof you should need that no one actually NEEDS an expensive prep school like an ISL to make it to an elite academic level college. Sure going to a prep school like an ISL certainly can help one's academic prowess but only provided one has the actual intellect to be able to take advantage of the benefits. Most people actually would say that means getting into an elite college. A lot of what you seem to be defending would be akin to paying the freight for a elite prep school and then choosing a vocational institute to become an auto mechanic. It might produce a great mechanic but it certainly wasn't the end result most others on the same path were focused on.
Personally I think places like IMG and Shattuck are stupid because if one has the soccer talent one doesn't actually need any of those trappings to get to another level as long as one is willing to do the work. All places like that really offer a truly talented player is a training structure and a level of intensity that may help them reach their potential. My experience has been that even if one has the potential to be great if one needs all of those sorts of external forces to bring it out one is never going to be great simply because it typically means that the internal drive is really not there and it is that internal drive that actually makes players great.
And why did you send your kid to an ISL??? She clearly didn't NEED it?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOnce again, a swing and a miss. Let's keep the discussion on track instead of going off on this stupid tangent shall we?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBTNT, if not even the elite need those extra, specialized trappings then why are you constantly railing against the current environment? I thought you wanted less dilution and more special, special treatment???
And why did you send your kid to an ISL??? She clearly didn't NEED it?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMore ridiculousness BTDT. Did you forget that you accused I guess P of arguing for Shattuck and IMG, and they you say he was mimicking Cujo? Cujo would NEVER argue for those places. You can't seem to write even one post that has internal coherence.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post...Sure going to a prep school like an ISL certainly can help one's academic prowess but only provided one has the actual intellect to be able to take advantage of the benefits. Most people actually would say that means getting into an elite college. A lot of what you seem to be defending would be akin to paying the freight for a elite prep school and then choosing a vocational institute to become an auto mechanic. It might produce a great mechanic but it certainly wasn't the end result most others on the same path were focused on....
Talk about swinging and missing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYeah, right, BTDT hasn't been posting in this thread today. And what does on track mean, BTDT? What "discussion" do you think we were in???
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDon't think anyone is saying that he isn't just that your constant efforts to peg every single post on him are resulting in incorrect assumptions that are coloring the discussion in way that is counter productive to keeping the discussion on track. No different from the guy who is trying to link Perspective and Cujo together. It creates a false narrative.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostVery odd, BTNT. This is in essence what you dictated for one of you own kids. Or maybe you're now publicly acknowledging how much of a waste of time, energy, and monetary investment that path was. You'd be wrong about that, too--had you allowed your kid to go to a college at her level of "academic prowess."
Talk about swinging and missing.
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