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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhile this poster sounds like a real jack@ss, he makes some valid points. If your kid is not willing to commit to soccer as a job, then playing D1 will be problematic. That's why most of the posters were talking about "academic fit" that he so quickly dismisses.
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Sorry but that's the D3 mindset and it just doesn't translate that cleanly to D1. Not as easy to walk away. The D1 mindset is more like sifting through job offers. The academics are a part of the equation but if your kid doesn't get the athletic fit right they usually won't stay at the school to enjoy the academic fit. If a kid just sees themself just quitting soccer when the going gets tough why not be smart enough to avoid all of the headaches and just plan on being a student from the start
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf their kid is not willing to commit to it why are they even bothering with soccer if their true priority is academics? Nothing wrong with that at all but if someone wants to focus on the academic fit then why not just go be a student, why not just leave all the sport headaches for someone who really wants it? All those who want to pursue soccer while trying to find that "academic fit" end up doing is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and making compromises that probably shouldn't be made.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSorry but that's the D3 mindset and it just doesn't translate that cleanly to D1. Not as easy to walk away. The D1 mindset is more like sifting through job offers. The academics are a part of the equation but if your kid doesn't get the athletic fit right they usually won't stay at the school to enjoy the academic fit. If a kid just sees themself just quitting soccer when the going gets tough why not be smart enough to avoid all of the headaches and just plan on being a student from the start
Because they're kids. They'll learn along the way. And despite the naysayers it often works out just fine
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostPlease stop indulging the loon. He doesn't actually know squat about how to proceed in your situation. His advice will end up with your kid going to some D3 school to play soccer and you left paying the freight for the privilege of that happening. Haven't you pumped enough money into the soccer industry? Isn't it time to get something in return?
Here are a couple of things to think about.
#1 - The knuckleheads on this site typically see recruiting as something akin to a beauty pageant when in reality it is more a marketing exercise. What you are really trying to do is sort through a ton of clutter to find the situation that values her skill set the most and in return is willing to offer her the most resources to help her get the highest quality education possible.
#2 - Your daughter's ability to play soccer is a commodity. When you are talking about chasing a scholarship you are really talking about selling her ability to play soccer in exchange for a promise of an education. Fit in the D1 world is a complicated thing to sort out because in order to truly get the promised education you need to produce on the soccer field. You need to come to grips with the business aspect of D1 college sports and realize it is essentially a produce or perish type of environment.
#3 - If you or your daughter are not prepared to fully sell out for the scholarship then stop right now and forget playing soccer in college. Being a D1 athlete is a full time job. If your daughter goes into it with the mindset that soccer is second she will end up rightfully perceived as an uncommitted player and will find herself at the end of the bench and likely miserable. Not being committed to your job is a recipe for disaster on many fronts.
#4 - If your daughter is going to play a sport at the D1 level, you will need to recognize that there is no way she will get the same education that a "normal" student at that same school will get so you can't actually base much on the supposed "academic fit" people around here like to tout because her fit will largely be a function of the academic resources provided by the athletic department and the attitudes of the head coach towards academics. If you are not careful she could end up with a degree (the NCAA will ensure that) but not much in the way of an education.
#5 - When it comes down to parlaying an ability to play a sport into an education, you should probably know that the high brow academic colleges around here like the Ivies and Patriot League schools generally offer the least amount of money, the least amount of academic resources, and the school administrations and faculty generally have the worst attitudes towards athletes. In order to get a high quality education (not just a degree) from one of these types of institutions you have to be both abnormally bright and abnormally dedicated as well as able to fight through a whole lot of indifference to get through to graduation. The love affair some around here have for these highly ranked academic institutions shows a complete lack of understanding of what is going on in the world of college sports these days as well as what else is out there.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostVery interesting post. As a parent with a player who values a great education I'm concerned about your remark that D1 soccer is a full time job and that one (most except fit the truly gifted), will have to realize they are just " getting a degree" not an education if they pursue D1 soccer ( presumably due to the pressure it places on athletes leaving them very little time to study). Is this really true? Are there many cases of regret from such athletes ? How did you reach this understanding?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostVery interesting post. As a parent with a player who values a great education I'm concerned about your remark that D1 soccer is a full time job and that one (most except fit the truly gifted), will have to realize they are just " getting a degree" not an education if they pursue D1 soccer ( presumably due to the pressure it places on athletes leaving them very little time to study). Is this really true? Are there many cases of regret from such athletes ? How did you reach this understanding?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostVery interesting post. As a parent with a player who values a great education I'm concerned about your remark that D1 soccer is a full time job and that one (most except fit the truly gifted), will have to realize they are just " getting a degree" not an education if they pursue D1 soccer ( presumably due to the pressure it places on athletes leaving them very little time to study). Is this really true? Are there many cases of regret from such athletes ? How did you reach this understanding?
D3 soccer is still important to those that play, but it is a bit more balanced. It reminds me of D1 sports 30 years ago. And school is first.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostVery interesting post. As a parent with a player who values a great education I'm concerned about your remark that D1 soccer is a full time job and that one (most except fit the truly gifted), will have to realize they are just " getting a degree" not an education if they pursue D1 soccer ( presumably due to the pressure it places on athletes leaving them very little time to study). Is this really true? Are there many cases of regret from such athletes ? How did you reach this understanding?
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D1 is just preseason (August) and fall right? Can't they use the winter and spring to "catch up"?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBecause they're kids. They'll learn along the way. And despite the naysayers it often works out just fine
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostD1 is just preseason (August) and fall right? Can't they use the winter and spring to "catch up"?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSorry but that's the D3 mindset and it just doesn't translate that cleanly to D1. Not as easy to walk away. The D1 mindset is more like sifting through job offers. The academics are a part of the equation but if your kid doesn't get the athletic fit right they usually won't stay at the school to enjoy the academic fit. If a kid just sees themself just quitting soccer when the going gets tough why not be smart enough to avoid all of the headaches and just plan on being a student from the start
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDo you need the scholarship to pay for that great education you value so much? If not then skip soccer and have them just focus on getting that great education because soccer is just going to be a distraction.
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