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    Everybody's missing the point here. Kim-Jong Un scored both goals. US women do not have a player of that caliber.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Having a good athlete who can can be a very good player at some level of college is totally different than having a truly world class athlete/player. And most are perfectly happy with the former and indeed most know that isn't even guaranteed.
      Such a nice thought, but in reality, beyond any other misperceptions, I'd argue way too much credit is being granted to "most" parents in those comments.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        No truth bomb at all. Only what HE thinks should be the guiding principle for participation. Most parents are fully aware their kids are not NT material or destined for EPL stardom. Having a good athlete who can can be a very good player at some level of college is totally different than having a truly world class athlete/player. And most are perfectly happy with the former and indeed most know that isn't even guaranteed. Time to get rid of his fake news stories.
        When the discussion is about identifying and developing world class talent no one but you really gives a crap about what "most parents are fully aware of" or for that matter how good a soccer player their children may or may not be or even how happy any of them may be. The simple reality is none of those faceless players you are so concerned with ever were, nor ever will be viewed as talented enough to make a NT so no one actually cares the slightest about them and it is time you recognize that all they really are is just non descript back ground noise in the discussion. The fact that YOU keep trying to bring them into this sort of discussion and make their development model the basis for training national level players basically tells everyone you don't know the first thing about player development and your insistence on constantly sidetracking these sorts of discussion with your stupidity is what makes you the biggest douche bag on this site.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Ignore the stuff I sent about Barca. How about being close to teenage girls from Ghana, Japan, France, Germany, or Korea DPR?

          Which we are NOT:

          http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/...#post-34898771

          and

          http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/...#post-34900310



          -a coach
          The women are now starting to run into the same cultural problems the men traditionally have. Soccer is not a passion in this country like it is in others then we end up diluting our talent pools trying to be super inclusionary and end up never giving our youngest players the sort of training they need to compete against countries like the above that will mercilessly weed out players and only put resources into the best and brightest. What is written about Alex Morgan here is basically the proof. Imagine how good she might be now if instead of having a weekend coach like her Dad training her at the U-Little stage she were in one of the European academies being supervised by someone who actually knew what they were doing.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Everybody's missing the point here. Kim-Jong Un scored both goals. US women do not have a player of that caliber.
            Pugh is equally as talented but as someone wrote about earlier she wasn't put into the same position to succeed by the US coaches because they had to cover up for such deficits in the team that was around her. Especially in the mid field. Need to give credit where credit is due. Pugh is an awesome talent at this stage but the real issue is how the US NT staff develops her going forward because she isn't anywhere near a finished product. Her playing for UCLA is not going to help that process at all.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              When the discussion is about identifying and developing world class talent no one but you really gives a crap about what "most parents are fully aware of" or for that matter how good a soccer player their children may or may not be or even how happy any of them may be. The simple reality is none of those faceless players you are so concerned with ever were, nor ever will be viewed as talented enough to make a NT so no one actually cares the slightest about them and it is time you recognize that all they really are is just non descript back ground noise in the discussion. The fact that YOU keep trying to bring them into this sort of discussion and make their development model the basis for training national level players basically tells everyone you don't know the first thing about player development and your insistence on constantly sidetracking these sorts of discussion with your stupidity is what makes you the biggest douche bag on this site.
              Oh so quaint and so predictable...and of course every premise in your post based on a lie.

              YOU inserted how crushed 50-75% of soccer parents would be to realize their kids don't have the natural talent to be world superstars. Need your post cited? You do this in every thread and then lie that someone else jumped in and changed the "topic." You're obsessed with perfectly happy families. Guess what? They don't care if they are background noise or no noise at all to you. Apparently it is loud enough that you can't resist 24/7.

              As for being a world class DB, look in the mirror. That picture of you floating around, your persona on this site, and the term 'DB' fit as snugly at that 46 inch belt around your waist.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Such a nice thought, but in reality, beyond any other misperceptions, I'd argue way too much credit is being granted to "most" parents in those comments.
                No question there are plenty of crazy and self-important parents running around. That doesn't mean that even those folks believe their kids are destined for World Cup glory. Over the last decade a couple of highly decorated Mass women have come close but have not made it. The top male prospect over the last decade in now mired in the 3rd Division in England with no shot of getting close again to the MNT. And of course then there are the more normal parents. All in all, MOST know their kids aren't the second coming.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I hear you, but at least he provoked some responses and re-started the dialogue. I'm less interested in who is doing all the posting if it leads to an exchange that interests me. Sleuthing ain't my thing.
                  Suit yourself. When calling someone Breitbart-like would be kind, I see no problem with calling him out and that will continue as long as he continues vomiting poison on the site.

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                    The best player on the W side is Marta. She will surely be missed. Awesome skills, wonderful techniques and good balance. The problem is see in most American players are they play too upright which limits their balance and movements. If anyone on the girls side want to emulate, she's the one.

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                      Tired of the "mythical" late bloomer garbage. There are late bloomers. Medicine is well aware of them. Morgan Brian was a late bloomer and was not successful in her initial run at ODP. Carli Lloyd was also a late bloomer. I have a late bloomer. Small and relatively unsuccessful as kids were allowed to foul her and push her over by incompetent refs. Not a starter on the top mega club team as a youngster. Grew 7 inches in 2 years- 40 pounds after most had reached their adult height if not stature. Picked up speed and more importantly quickness at the same time and has always had sick skills (yes a competent scout may have realized the kid had unusual technique and mind for the game). 10 points over the last weekend in NC against top competition. Top ACC and SEC interested now. Top creative midfielders actually seem to fall into the late bloomer category. US national team? After that debacle I would be worried that they would ruin her creative and now highly successful game as they tried to turn her into a low soccer iq robot the likes of which were rampant on the US side of the field. (And they were mostly on the US side).

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                        Sure seems to make a whole lot of sense then to delay getting real serious about training kids properly and wait for the one or two odd superstars to finish with puberty then. Every other soccer country in the world starts identifying their best and brightest at 8-9 and has them playing professionally at around 16 but our plan here is to try and convince a nation that soccer is the only sport and then stick millions of little kids with well meaning but ill equipped parents for coaches until they are in middle school and then start picking the ones who show some soccer aptitude and training them. Sure seems like a great plan. Guess this is the soccer version of no child left behind because that's working so well.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The best player on the W side is Marta. She will surely be missed. Awesome skills, wonderful techniques and good balance. The problem is see in most American players are they play too upright which limits their balance and movements. If anyone on the girls side want to emulate, she's the one.
                          What Marta has, you can't teach. She's a naturally gifted athlete.

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                            No one said delay training kids properly -that's a big leap. What I said was that late bloomers exist and there should be a mechanism to identify and collect them because they can become some of the best in the country and gave real examples. Those who initially are often not identified by our lousy talent identifiers who are really talent selectors, can become some of the best players in the country. I am saying a combination of real talent identifiers plus a broader net than you think is necessary with your giant athletic kid with a pedigree who obviously would have been chosen at 7, and continuous surveillance for the late bloomers and others who have fallen through the cracks is the basis of the model.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Sure seems to make a whole lot of sense then to delay getting real serious about training kids properly and wait for the one or two odd superstars to finish with puberty then. Every other soccer country in the world starts identifying their best and brightest at 8-9 and has them playing professionally at around 16 but our plan here is to try and convince a nation that soccer is the only sport and then stick millions of little kids with well meaning but ill equipped parents for coaches until they are in middle school and then start picking the ones who show some soccer aptitude and training them. Sure seems like a great plan. Guess this is the soccer version of no child left behind because that's working so well.
                              We need to let go of the fallacy about parent coaches until middle school. Not happening anymore.
                              Every club in the country is now offering academy style training programs for ages as young as u6.
                              And we all know that town soccer numbers are down significantly as kids flock to club ball.
                              If folks decline the training, that's their choice
                              Daddy coaches are not preventing youth soccer from progressing, they just serve as the bogeyman

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Oh so quaint and so predictable...and of course every premise in your post based on a lie.

                                YOU inserted how crushed 50-75% of soccer parents would be to realize their kids don't have the natural talent to be world superstars. Need your post cited? You do this in every thread and then lie that someone else jumped in and changed the "topic." You're obsessed with perfectly happy families. Guess what? They don't care if they are background noise or no noise at all to you. Apparently it is loud enough that you can't resist 24/7.

                                As for being a world class DB, look in the mirror. That picture of you floating around, your persona on this site, and the term 'DB' fit as snugly at that 46 inch belt around your waist.
                                Can we all at least agree that there is an actual talent pyramid and that there is a pretty wide gulf between a national team starter and a national team level prospect and that there is an even bigger gulf between that national team prospect and your average starter in a top D1 program and that the gulfs get even wider as you travel further down the soccer levels?

                                Is it unfair to say that there are different costs and different rewards at different levels of that pyramid and that while one person might be content with the balance they have struck on one level that it might not be the right balance for some one else on either a higher or lower level?

                                Is it outrageous to think that the more we try to flatten out the pyramid in order to be more inclusive that the more we end up forcing inequalities in the cost/reward calculation and that that can have a detrimental impact on player development?

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