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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Reality is it is easier to play soccer for UNF. They have a women and men’s soccer teams.
    Reality is that you're a cünt

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      Reality is the UNF freshman avg GPA is higher than FSU’s. Also the freshman acceptance rate is lower at UNF than FSU.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Reality is the UNF freshman avg GPA is higher than FSU’s. Also the freshman acceptance rate is lower at UNF than FSU.
        No way that is true. UNF is a third tier school. Kids who don’t get into UF or FSU get admitted there. I don’t know how they are skewing their stats but everyone knows this. UNF dumps a lot of incoming freshman into summer session. People need to examine the numbers closely. Look at average test scores as this will show more than inflated gpa when the classes are taken as dual enrollment at community college versus actual AP/IB classes. Also just because a kid takes a lot of AP classes (at some schools they are easier than others) yet they can’t actually pass the exam. That was the case on our team at some schools. All ththe we girls who had great grades had lousy test scores. (Low 20’s)

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          No way that is true. UNF is a third tier school. Kids who don’t get into UF or FSU get admitted there. I don’t know how they are skewing their stats but everyone knows this. UNF dumps a lot of incoming freshman into summer session. People need to examine the numbers closely. Look at average test scores as this will show more than inflated gpa when the classes are taken as dual enrollment at community college versus actual AP/IB classes. Also just because a kid takes a lot of AP classes (at some schools they are easier than others) yet they can’t actually pass the exam. That was the case on our team at some schools. All ththe we girls who had great grades had lousy test scores. (Low 20’s)
          I think the smart kids are applying to the big 4 universities and then going with where they get accepted and with the best money offer. Any of these schools are going to prepare you for where you want to go. The only difference is the football program and that should NOT be a deciding factor of where you end up.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I think the smart kids are applying to the big 4 universities and then going with where they get accepted and with the best money offer. Any of these schools are going to prepare you for where you want to go. The only difference is the football program and that should NOT be a deciding factor of where you end up.
            The parents who are posting positively about UNF on this website and are making statements "Any of these schools are going to prepare for where you want to go" are ignoring a painful reality - no one will want to hire their kid, at least not for the top jobs available. The problem with UCF, UNF, and other state schools is that the have no name recognition and no alumni network. This means a lot more than people care to admit, but the truth is that if I am hiring engineers, and I have a candidate with an engieering degree from UVA and a candidate with a degree from UNF, I'm hiring the UVA graduate hands down. Its a much better state school. This is what the legislators in our republican dominated state legislature did not understand when they started messing with school funding and don't understand now. A degree is a product, and if your product has no name recognition, no one buys it.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The parents who are posting positively about UNF on this website and are making statements "Any of these schools are going to prepare for where you want to go" are ignoring a painful reality - no one will want to hire their kid, at least not for the top jobs available. The problem with UCF, UNF, and other state schools is that the have no name recognition and no alumni network. This means a lot more than people care to admit, but the truth is that if I am hiring engineers, and I have a candidate with an engieering degree from UVA and a candidate with a degree from UNF, I'm hiring the UVA graduate hands down. Its a much better state school. This is what the legislators in our republican dominated state legislature did not understand when they started messing with school funding and don't understand now. A degree is a product, and if your product has no name recognition, no one buys it.
              Well.... sort of. The "name recognition" of a degree for most state schools decreases the further you move away from the state where you earned it. If your child is seeking a future job in/around the State of Florida the degrees from state schools are viewed fairly equal. But as you move away from the state you earned your state school degree in the "name recognition" becomes more important and - like it or not - most of that "name recognition" is not based on academics - it's largely based on the success of the college's Men's Football and Basketball programs.

              I have had several nieces and nephews graduate from Michigan State. Good, solid, Big-Ten institution but nothing special academically, however, they've competed successfully for jobs in New York City, Chicago, etc. because the "Sparty" degree has name recognition. University of Michigan even more so - outstanding academics and Go Blue! In this case, Florida State is sort of like Michigan State and Florida is sort of like Michigan.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Well.... sort of. The "name recognition" of a degree for most state schools decreases the further you move away from the state where you earned it. If your child is seeking a future job in/around the State of Florida the degrees from state schools are viewed fairly equal. But as you move away from the state you earned your state school degree in the "name recognition" becomes more important and - like it or not - most of that "name recognition" is not based on academics - it's largely based on the success of the college's Men's Football and Basketball programs.

                I have had several nieces and nephews graduate from Michigan State. Good, solid, Big-Ten institution but nothing special academically, however, they've competed successfully for jobs in New York City, Chicago, etc. because the "Sparty" degree has name recognition. University of Michigan even more so - outstanding academics and Go Blue! In this case, Florida State is sort of like Michigan State and Florida is sort of like Michigan.
                If you are going to graduate school, med school, etc, then none of it really matters. Avoid debt if you can.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  If you are going to graduate school, med school, etc, then none of it really matters. Avoid debt if you can.
                  UF, FSU and UCF have med schools.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Well.... sort of. The "name recognition" of a degree for most state schools decreases the further you move away from the state where you earned it. If your child is seeking a future job in/around the State of Florida the degrees from state schools are viewed fairly equal. But as you move away from the state you earned your state school degree in the "name recognition" becomes more important and - like it or not - most of that "name recognition" is not based on academics - it's largely based on the success of the college's Men's Football and Basketball programs.

                    I have had several nieces and nephews graduate from Michigan State. Good, solid, Big-Ten institution but nothing special academically, however, they've competed successfully for jobs in New York City, Chicago, etc. because the "Sparty" degree has name recognition. University of Michigan even more so - outstanding academics and Go Blue! In this case, Florida State is sort of like Michigan State and Florida is sort of like Michigan.
                    More important the job interviewer wants to know the person can do the job. Quite a few studies out there show college athetes are leaders, team players and future CEOs.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      No way that is true. UNF is a third tier school. Kids who don’t get into UF or FSU get admitted there. I don’t know how they are skewing their stats but everyone knows this. UNF dumps a lot of incoming freshman into summer session. People need to examine the numbers closely. Look at average test scores as this will show more than inflated gpa when the classes are taken as dual enrollment at community college versus actual AP/IB classes. Also just because a kid takes a lot of AP classes (at some schools they are easier than others) yet they can’t actually pass the exam. That was the case on our team at some schools. All ththe we girls who had great grades had lousy test scores. (Low 20’s)
                      Parents and students don't go around discussing who or who did not pass what AP exams. Even UF and FSU do not ask on the application if the student passed an AP exam. UF and FSU do not ask for a high school transcript to prove that the student self reported his or her GPA, courses and grades accurately on the application.
                      Everyone talks about inflated GPA but the kids who are average will not have inflated GPAs. The inflated GPA is to help show the differential between regular A students taking regular classes and students who are making A's taking college prep honor or IB/AP/DE classes. It is harder than ever to earn A's because most districts require only objective quizzes and tests (homework and projects are limited in % of grade) to be factored into the grade. Also, required district and state exams can account up to 30% of the students grade, something the teacher and students can not have much control over the test.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The parents who are posting positively about UNF on this website and are making statements "Any of these schools are going to prepare for where you want to go" are ignoring a painful reality - no one will want to hire their kid, at least not for the top jobs available. The problem with UCF, UNF, and other state schools is that the have no name recognition and no alumni network. This means a lot more than people care to admit, but the truth is that if I am hiring engineers, and I have a candidate with an engieering degree from UVA and a candidate with a degree from UNF, I'm hiring the UVA graduate hands down. Its a much better state school. This is what the legislators in our republican dominated state legislature did not understand when they started messing with school funding and don't understand now. A degree is a product, and if your product has no name recognition, no one buys it.
                        Depends what those top jobs involve. We know lots of UCF and UNF alumni working at the top of their businesses, schools, and everywhere. While you may hire that UVA candidate, a Jacksonville based engineering firm might hire the UNF intern they really liked. UCF started in the 1970's as an engineering college and Orlando is full of UCF engineers. 100,000 of the 277,000 plus UCF alumni live in the Central Florida area. As UCF has grown into one of the largest universities in the nation, the UCF network of alumni will be surpassing UF's alumni numbers in the future.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          If you are going to graduate school, med school, etc, then none of it really matters. Avoid debt if you can.
                          Yes and no. Getting into a top med school from Podunk U won't be as easy vs a larger well know institution with a large science program. If you're not going to grad school or aren't sure then go to the best school that you can reasonably afford. Yes avoiding debt is desired. But if you need to take on some in order to attend a better quality school then it's probably worth it. Reputation, strength of a school's recruiting and alumni networks matters as you get closer to graduation, as well as opportunities for internships while in school.

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                            UCF’s mission is to have one of the largest networks of partnerships. UCF students have endless internship and job opportunities around the area and the nation.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              If you are going to graduate school, med school, etc, then none of it really matters. Avoid debt if you can.
                              The Lottery is providing for The Bright Futures scholarships and keeping the students in Florida and debt free. The problem occurs when the student population in Florida is rising and the universities recruit out-of-state students to bring in more money and then the Bright students can’t get admitted to the top Florida universities. Know a boy who qualified for second level of Bright Futures (75% tuition covered) but could not get admitted to UNF.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The Lottery is providing for The Bright Futures scholarships and keeping the students in Florida and debt free. The problem occurs when the student population in Florida is rising and the universities recruit out-of-state students to bring in more money and then the Bright students can’t get admitted to the top Florida universities. Know a boy who qualified for second level of Bright Futures (75% tuition covered) but could not get admitted to UNF.
                                Second level bright futures isn’t that impressive. Did he apply later. Kids need to apply early and not wait at those schools with open enrollment to increase their chances of securing a spot

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