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Reality is the UNF freshman avg GPA is higher than FSU’s. Also the freshman acceptance rate is lower at UNF than FSU.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostReality is the UNF freshman avg GPA is higher than FSU’s. Also the freshman acceptance rate is lower at UNF than FSU.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo way that is true. UNF is a third tier school. Kids who don’t get into UF or FSU get admitted there. I don’t know how they are skewing their stats but everyone knows this. UNF dumps a lot of incoming freshman into summer session. People need to examine the numbers closely. Look at average test scores as this will show more than inflated gpa when the classes are taken as dual enrollment at community college versus actual AP/IB classes. Also just because a kid takes a lot of AP classes (at some schools they are easier than others) yet they can’t actually pass the exam. That was the case on our team at some schools. All ththe we girls who had great grades had lousy test scores. (Low 20’s)
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think the smart kids are applying to the big 4 universities and then going with where they get accepted and with the best money offer. Any of these schools are going to prepare you for where you want to go. The only difference is the football program and that should NOT be a deciding factor of where you end up.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe parents who are posting positively about UNF on this website and are making statements "Any of these schools are going to prepare for where you want to go" are ignoring a painful reality - no one will want to hire their kid, at least not for the top jobs available. The problem with UCF, UNF, and other state schools is that the have no name recognition and no alumni network. This means a lot more than people care to admit, but the truth is that if I am hiring engineers, and I have a candidate with an engieering degree from UVA and a candidate with a degree from UNF, I'm hiring the UVA graduate hands down. Its a much better state school. This is what the legislators in our republican dominated state legislature did not understand when they started messing with school funding and don't understand now. A degree is a product, and if your product has no name recognition, no one buys it.
I have had several nieces and nephews graduate from Michigan State. Good, solid, Big-Ten institution but nothing special academically, however, they've competed successfully for jobs in New York City, Chicago, etc. because the "Sparty" degree has name recognition. University of Michigan even more so - outstanding academics and Go Blue! In this case, Florida State is sort of like Michigan State and Florida is sort of like Michigan.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWell.... sort of. The "name recognition" of a degree for most state schools decreases the further you move away from the state where you earned it. If your child is seeking a future job in/around the State of Florida the degrees from state schools are viewed fairly equal. But as you move away from the state you earned your state school degree in the "name recognition" becomes more important and - like it or not - most of that "name recognition" is not based on academics - it's largely based on the success of the college's Men's Football and Basketball programs.
I have had several nieces and nephews graduate from Michigan State. Good, solid, Big-Ten institution but nothing special academically, however, they've competed successfully for jobs in New York City, Chicago, etc. because the "Sparty" degree has name recognition. University of Michigan even more so - outstanding academics and Go Blue! In this case, Florida State is sort of like Michigan State and Florida is sort of like Michigan.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWell.... sort of. The "name recognition" of a degree for most state schools decreases the further you move away from the state where you earned it. If your child is seeking a future job in/around the State of Florida the degrees from state schools are viewed fairly equal. But as you move away from the state you earned your state school degree in the "name recognition" becomes more important and - like it or not - most of that "name recognition" is not based on academics - it's largely based on the success of the college's Men's Football and Basketball programs.
I have had several nieces and nephews graduate from Michigan State. Good, solid, Big-Ten institution but nothing special academically, however, they've competed successfully for jobs in New York City, Chicago, etc. because the "Sparty" degree has name recognition. University of Michigan even more so - outstanding academics and Go Blue! In this case, Florida State is sort of like Michigan State and Florida is sort of like Michigan.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo way that is true. UNF is a third tier school. Kids who don’t get into UF or FSU get admitted there. I don’t know how they are skewing their stats but everyone knows this. UNF dumps a lot of incoming freshman into summer session. People need to examine the numbers closely. Look at average test scores as this will show more than inflated gpa when the classes are taken as dual enrollment at community college versus actual AP/IB classes. Also just because a kid takes a lot of AP classes (at some schools they are easier than others) yet they can’t actually pass the exam. That was the case on our team at some schools. All ththe we girls who had great grades had lousy test scores. (Low 20’s)
Everyone talks about inflated GPA but the kids who are average will not have inflated GPAs. The inflated GPA is to help show the differential between regular A students taking regular classes and students who are making A's taking college prep honor or IB/AP/DE classes. It is harder than ever to earn A's because most districts require only objective quizzes and tests (homework and projects are limited in % of grade) to be factored into the grade. Also, required district and state exams can account up to 30% of the students grade, something the teacher and students can not have much control over the test.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe parents who are posting positively about UNF on this website and are making statements "Any of these schools are going to prepare for where you want to go" are ignoring a painful reality - no one will want to hire their kid, at least not for the top jobs available. The problem with UCF, UNF, and other state schools is that the have no name recognition and no alumni network. This means a lot more than people care to admit, but the truth is that if I am hiring engineers, and I have a candidate with an engieering degree from UVA and a candidate with a degree from UNF, I'm hiring the UVA graduate hands down. Its a much better state school. This is what the legislators in our republican dominated state legislature did not understand when they started messing with school funding and don't understand now. A degree is a product, and if your product has no name recognition, no one buys it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you are going to graduate school, med school, etc, then none of it really matters. Avoid debt if you can.
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UCF’s mission is to have one of the largest networks of partnerships. UCF students have endless internship and job opportunities around the area and the nation.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you are going to graduate school, med school, etc, then none of it really matters. Avoid debt if you can.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe Lottery is providing for The Bright Futures scholarships and keeping the students in Florida and debt free. The problem occurs when the student population in Florida is rising and the universities recruit out-of-state students to bring in more money and then the Bright students can’t get admitted to the top Florida universities. Know a boy who qualified for second level of Bright Futures (75% tuition covered) but could not get admitted to UNF.
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