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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBad analogy...thousands of families aren't paying Upwards of $5,000 a year for Duke to pretend they care, lol.
its a tired narrative to suggest any different. All leagues have bad Clubs in them and by bad i mean poorly run. results are the measure blind parents use to asses a club. look deeper. thats where your relationship is. its not with the USSF.
The USSF relationships are with the member Clubs. That is what needs to improve. If you told me that the USSF does not care about the Clubs, then i would listen. I would ask you to explain. I think there is some validity to that argument. The USSF do not realize how challenging implementation is in the current environment.
The care about the players things is just mis-information. get good, then you will actually interact more with the USSF.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt’s an interesting debate. Player development vs team or “product”. For the business to survive, a balance needs to be struck, but who has the patience and/or money to ride out the transition year(s). I wonder how many parents actually think their kid is NT material.
The GDA relies on a member Clubs ability to attract talent. The biggest mistake t date by the USSF is to market themselves even mentioning YNTs and NTs. Thats a stupid approach. They should be marketing the leagues advantages. If its a better product, over time it will produce better players and those players will be successful down the line , in College, the NWSL or even on NTs. By mentioning NTs NOW , they have allowed the line of commentary about
1. GDA is for NT players only
2. GDA only care about NT level players
3. Parents are delusional if they think their kid is NT level ie playing in the GDA
4. GDA is not about College
all of which are pure nonsense
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postthis is also a question i see a lot but dont understand. What is NT material? most NT players become NT level in College as their growth, improvement and development continues. Why would any league be set up for NT material only? no league in the world is.
The GDA relies on a member Clubs ability to attract talent. The biggest mistake t date by the USSF is to market themselves even mentioning YNTs and NTs. Thats a stupid approach. They should be marketing the leagues advantages. If its a better product, over time it will produce better players and those players will be successful down the line , in College, the NWSL or even on NTs. By mentioning NTs NOW , they have allowed the line of commentary about
1. GDA is for NT players only
2. GDA only care about NT level players
3. Parents are delusional if they think their kid is NT level ie playing in the GDA
4. GDA is not about College
all of which are pure nonsense
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postthis is also a question i see a lot but dont understand. What is NT material? most NT players become NT level in College as their growth, improvement and development continues. Why would any league be set up for NT material only? no league in the world is.
The GDA relies on a member Clubs ability to attract talent. The biggest mistake t date by the USSF is to market themselves even mentioning YNTs and NTs. Thats a stupid approach. They should be marketing the leagues advantages. If its a better product, over time it will produce better players and those players will be successful down the line , in College, the NWSL or even on NTs. By mentioning NTs NOW , they have allowed the line of commentary about
1. GDA is for NT players only
2. GDA only care about NT level players
3. Parents are delusional if they think their kid is NT level ie playing in the GDA
4. GDA is not about College
all of which are pure nonsense
Now that there are competing leagues and clubs for the top talent with money, it is much more spread out and the clubs are realizing that the spiel about NT access is not really that effective. They need to stress what they offer regarding coaching , cost, travel, competitive level, roster size, playing time, etc. because that is really what the customers care about. Very few customers have any innate loyalty to one or the other of these organizations.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGreat points. We hear from leadership the NT player is a unicorn, essentially. But, the college exposure (no guarantee about levels or scholarships) and the advanced training is what it is about.
Most Clubs do not have any incentive to tell you the truth so you have to know what you want out of it. They want your money. What do you want in return ? and if you say
1. I want to play on the NT
2. I want to get into a good College
3. I want to play with friends
4. i want to be a leader
you can accomplish all those things whichever path you choose IF you focus on getting better. if you select a path thinking that path is the gateway to any of these, you are sorely mistaken.
League supremacy is a total diversionary tactic. Designed to market to parents who have not done their homework. watching these leagues "claim" successful kids is so laughable. The kids/families put in the work. Most of them would be successful no matter the badge and almost all of them had MULTIPLE coaches, clubs mentors and influences on them.
Do not fall for it
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe ECNL marketed themselves that way for years. Maybe the ECNl and ussf actually though this marketing line was effective when it was really just that there were not a lot of other options.There was no competition to the ECNL so they got lots of the monied talent and sent a lot to Youth NTs.
Now that there are competing leagues and clubs for the top talent with money, it is much more spread out and the clubs are realizing that the spiel about NT access is not really that effective. They need to stress what they offer regarding coaching , cost, travel, competitive level, roster size, playing time, etc. because that is really what the customers care about. Very few customers have any innate loyalty to one or the other of these organizations.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Posthow many ECNL or GDA Clubs are not close full ? And if they are not, is cost the reason why ? ?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Posthow many ECNL or GDA Clubs are not close full ? And if they are not, is cost the reason why ? ?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think the only ones that are hurting are the ones formed at the last minute. There are always willing idiots with cash. But when you attempt to form teams after most other clubs have locked up their players you are going to have issues.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postexactly. Cost is not the issue. They have customers, thats part of the problem. there is no incentive to actually compete. Plenty of $$ for all. No need to improve quality
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