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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    And how do we know you are wrong? The market tells us so.

    QB is the most well-paid and long-lived positions on the field. Most status as well. If you could pick any starting position on the field, that's the one you would take. Your definition of athleticism is much too narrow. The athleticism of a QB is much closer to the athleticism of a soccer player than any other position on the field. Vision, processing power and ability to execute technically. Sound familiar?
    Mentally, yes. But do you really think there's any other connection between the athleticism of Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and Messi or Ronaldo?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Didn't seem like BTDT to me. And nothing he said was that controversial. More cliche than controversial....
      That obviously was BTDT. So you're either lying, again, or you haven't been around here long. And stop complaining about threads being "flushed," etc.: that's a dead giveaway, too.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Germany is not a developed economy?
        lol...just goes to show the level of "knowledge" on TS.

        Oh yea...Germany also has some big players. Didn't seem to have hurt them in WC did it?

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          #34
          Athlete: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, OR stamina.

          An athlete suited for one sport could be very poorly suited to another. Watch the front runners in the Boston Marathon in person. Their smaller stature and crazy speed many miles into the race will impress. I don't think a Tom Brady could successfully compete with that any more than "Meb" Keflezigh ( 5 ft 5 in and 126 pounds!) could help win a Superbowl.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Athlete: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, OR stamina.

            An athlete suited for one sport could be very poorly suited to another. Watch the front runners in the Boston Marathon in person. Their smaller stature and crazy speed many miles into the race will impress. I don't think a Tom Brady could successfully compete with that any more than "Meb" Keflezigh ( 5 ft 5 in and 126 pounds!) could help win a Superbowl.
            The current clutch of club coaches love - big, fast and tall. If you close your eyes and listen to any "elite" U16-u18 boys game in the region it sounds just like a Kennedy family reunion immediately after somebody announces that bar is open......

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The current clutch of club coaches love - big, fast and tall. If you close your eyes and listen to any "elite" U16-u18 boys game in the region it sounds just like a Kennedy family reunion immediately after somebody announces that bar is open......
              Top 10 TS post of the year.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The current clutch of club coaches love - big, fast and tall. If you close your eyes and listen to any "elite" U16-u18 boys game in the region it sounds just like a Kennedy family reunion immediately after somebody announces that bar is open......
                Almost drowns out the sound of the rapes and gurgling noises.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  That obviously was BTDT. So you're either lying, again, or you haven't been around here long. And stop complaining about threads being "flushed," etc.: that's a dead giveaway, too.
                  and the obsession continues

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    and the obsession continues
                    As does your transparent, relentless lying, BTNT. But thanks for confirming the obvious, in case any readers new to town have stopped in.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      As does your transparent, relentless lying, BTNT. But thanks for confirming the obvious, in case any readers new to town have stopped in.
                      and the obsession continues

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        and the obsession continues
                        Still here, BTDT/ BTNT/Heinsohn?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Still here, BTDT/ BTNT/Heinsohn?
                          Jump fishy, jump!

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                            #43
                            To those who subscribe to the notion that the or our "best athletes don't play soccer,"...

                            (even if it were granted that that were the case)

                            ...yeah, well, they don't...

                            …because...

                            ...they can't.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              And how do we know you are wrong? The market tells us so.

                              QB is the most well-paid and long-lived positions on the field. Most status as well. If you could pick any starting position on the field, that's the one you would take. Your definition of athleticism is much too narrow. The athleticism of a QB is much closer to the athleticism of a soccer player than any other position on the field. Vision, processing power and ability to execute technically. Sound familiar?
                              Your definition of athlete is much too broad. Vision and processing power are not signs of athletic ability; those are mental characteristics. You can look at college quarterbacks to see the best athletes but when it comes to pros you have to look at intangibles.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Your definition of athlete is much too broad. Vision and processing power are not signs of athletic ability; those are mental characteristics. You can look at college quarterbacks to see the best athletes but when it comes to pros you have to look at intangibles.
                                We found one! A guy who doesn't know that THE most important athletic traits are mental. Things like actual visual and mental acuity are not "intangibles". What made Michael Jordan into Michael Jordan? Answer: His mind. Literally, his brain. Michael Jordan's mind in John Paxson's body would have still been great. What would Kwame Brown's mind in Michael Jordan's body get you? A two year career.

                                There are simply too many absolute physical specimens out there selling shoes and sweeping hospital corridors for people to not realize that the brain is first and foremost. How many bad brains make it in the pros for long stretches (and I'm not just talking about their off-the-field antics artificially shortening their careers, which also happens plenty)? We're not talking SATs here - we're talking raw processing power for estimation in space, proprioception, environmental input and decision speed. Pure athletic mental horsepower.

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