The team currently ranked #1 in MA at BU15 no longer exists, and hasn't played a game in almost a year.
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Why GotSoccer Rankings Are Stupid, Exhibit #42397
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Why do you find that stupid. Means that your U15 team must not be very good if you can't over take a team that hasn't played a game in year. In that respect the rankings work quite well. Your team must suck.
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All gotsoccer is, is a sort of scouting report that tells you how good a team you are going to play MAY be. Still have to play the game to prove anything.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy do you find that stupid. Means that your U15 team must not be very good if you can't over take a team that hasn't played a game in year. In that respect the rankings work quite well. Your team must suck.
Suppose a rating system ranks teams in alphabetical order, and therefore concludes that Afghanistan has the best national soccer team in the world. A year later, Germany and Spain and Brazil remain behind them in the rating system, since Afghanistan remains ahead of them in alphabetical order. According to this cretin, that simply demonstrates that Germany and Spain and Brazil have terrible teams, and the rating system works quite well.
This country just gets dumber and dumber.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnd the above post is Exhibit #89734 in the list of moronic TS posts.
Suppose a rating system ranks teams in alphabetical order, and therefore concludes that Afghanistan has the best national soccer team in the world. A year later, Germany and Spain and Brazil remain behind them in the rating system, since Afghanistan remains ahead of them in alphabetical order. According to this cretin, that simply demonstrates that Germany and Spain and Brazil have terrible teams, and the rating system works quite well.
This country just gets dumber and dumber.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnd the above post is Exhibit #89734 in the list of moronic TS posts.
Suppose a rating system ranks teams in alphabetical order, and therefore concludes that Afghanistan has the best national soccer team in the world. A year later, Germany and Spain and Brazil remain behind them in the rating system, since Afghanistan remains ahead of them in alphabetical order. According to this cretin, that simply demonstrates that Germany and Spain and Brazil have terrible teams, and the rating system works quite well.
This country just gets dumber and dumber.
And if the system is so "stupid" why do you care any way? You give it credence by getting your undies in a bunch. It's fine for what it is - a lose approximation of skill, giving tournament organizers a way to group similar teams. With all the different leagues and tournaments and strength of soccer in general state to state, no system is going to be perfect. There's just too many variables. Take it for what it is.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAll gotsoccer is, is a sort of scouting report that tells you how good a team you are going to play MAY be. Still have to play the game to prove anything.
This is not rocket science. "If you're not paying, you're not the customer, you're the product."
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAll gotsoccer is is a business that awards "points" to its paying customers (clubs) that causes THEM to get more revenue streams, er, customers (parents).
This is not rocket science. "If you're not paying, you're not the customer, you're the product."
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you win you get points. Have your coach enter a tournament and win. Simple really.
And of course, youth soccer is all about winning, as opposed to development.
All it takes for gotsoccer to dominate the youth soccer universe, and make it prioritise winning over development, is for people to do nothing but make decisions by those all-important points (as, by your reply, I presume you do).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOnly a tournament that uses gotsoccer software. gotsoccer's business practice is basically an extortion racket. If you don't pay them (use their software), the points never appear - at least on time. If your league doesn't use them (up until at least recently for one league), you got no points at all for winning.
And of course, youth soccer is all about winning, as opposed to development.
All it takes for gotsoccer to dominate the youth soccer universe, and make it prioritise winning over development, is for people to do nothing but make decisions by those all-important points (as, by your reply, I presume you do).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe bigger tournaments offer points. The best divisions of the bigger tournaments offer a lot of points. It isn't hard to get points. Enter big tournaments and win. You are making way too much out of this. I'm sorry you don't like the system but whining here isn't changing anything. My kid plays for a team that plays really strong competition and if they win they get rewarded. If the lose they don't. That's life.
My complaint is that, as a result, NO CLUB can any longer take the long view - they must win now at U8 or else you revenue streams, er, parents, will not choose to pay them.
As a country, we put more money into youth soccer (especially on the girls side) than any country on the planet, and we still produce (with rare exception), generally crap soccer.
I mean, isn't every other thread here on ts about who is "better?" Not who produces better, more technical individual players, but who racks up the points?
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So is this points obsession something that only the parents of the older teams on this site focus on ? I say that because in my 4 or 5 years of going to games and tournaments, tryouts, etc...not once has a single parent ever mentioned to me anything about what number ranking their team had or how many points they got at their last tournament. I was at a preseason tournament talking to a father of one player whose son actually plays on one of the top teams in his age bracket and was playing against another of the top teams and I asked him who were some of the best teams they played against. I have spoken with these other parents regularly while waiting for my sons games and never heard anything about rankings on even close to a regular basis. So do the majority of parents actually use this to make decisions ? I understand that if you have an elite player you want them to play for the best teams and perhaps the best coaches, but other than that does it really influence what people decide ? I guess once you start looking at teams outside the top 3 or 5, does it matter if your team is position #9 or position # 17 when you decide ? Is that what attracts a college coach really ?
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