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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Very few male players get full rides especially any below academy level players. Often with D1 (and D3 doebthat matter ) you can get a bether package with academic and financial aid. Grades are key.

    As for going the prep school route only if that is his academic choice and you can aford it. Don't do it just for soccer. It's a pricey way to go and finding a quality club that goes to lots of tournaments can accomplish similar results.
    Despite the errors (fat fingers? typing in the dark? or just old eyes?) this advice is pretty solid. Going private is a big decision and shouldn't be done just for sports. And you shouldn't do it in the hopes he'll get a college scholarship one day. If he isn't good enough for academy you're going to be very disappointed with what $$ are out there. Long term he'll get far better merit money making the most out of his HS experience no matter where he goes. Chose the educational route that is best for him

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Very few male players get full rides especially any below academy level players. Often with D1 (and D3 doebthat matter ) you can get a bether package with academic and financial aid. Grades are key.

      As for going the prep school route only if that is his academic choice and you can aford it. Don't do it just for soccer. It's a pricey way to go and finding a quality club that goes to lots of tournaments can accomplish similar results.
      Great post. I don't know about the other parents but I really appreciate people like you and several others in this thread who posted great wisdom, perspectives and other infomation one wouldn't normally get except from experience. You are all very kind. Thank you.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Great post. I don't know about the other parents but I really appreciate people like you and several others in this thread who posted great wisdom, perspectives and other infomation one wouldn't normally get except from experience. You are all very kind. Thank you.
        Tryout for NEFC, lots of connections there.

        Also D1 soccer isn't for everyone. The time commitment is very large and plan on picking a "general studies" type of major (you just miss too much school to take real classes during the season).

        If you can't get a full scholarship for D1 (which very few do) then think about D3.

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          #19
          Better yet just give up the soccer dream altogether and just concentrate on the academics because D3 soccer is full of ex DAP players so you'll never see the field.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Tryout for NEFC, lots of connections there.

            Also D1 soccer isn't for everyone. The time commitment is very large and plan on picking a "general studies" type of major (you just miss too much school to take real classes during the season).

            If you can't get a full scholarship for D1 (which very few do) then think about D3.
            Why not D2? Doesn't it go D1, D 2, D 3?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Why not D2? Doesn't it go D1, D 2, D 3?
              It's not really a continuum other than in terms of available scholarships. D2 has far fewer top notch academic institutions than both D1 and D3, and in many cases has fewer resources devoted to athletics than top tier D3 programs.

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                #22
                Nope

                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                For the D1 schools, are they offering full scholarship? And I thought most all D1 commitments and NLIs have been completed by now. If they are offering full ride, that must be tough as a parent to turn away free money and not having to financially support your kid for 4 years. But it sounds like you might see the big picture, happy student=happy life.
                Sorry for misunderstanding. Scholarship money never entered the picture. Schools my kid was aiming for were in leagues--Patriot, Ivy, Liberty, and other D3s , which don't even allow scholarships! There is tons of recruiting (official visits, meetings, phone calls, etc) by schools where scholarship never even enter the equation. Only capital the coaches have to offer are "supporting" a player's application (boost in admissions process) and being guaranteed a spot on the roster.

                These schools DO have something called athletic grants, but you have to qualify for them.

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                  #23
                  D2

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  It's not really a continuum other than in terms of available scholarships. D2 has far fewer top notch academic institutions than both D1 and D3, and in many cases has fewer resources devoted to athletics than top tier D3 programs.
                  There are also VERY few d2 schools in entire Northeast. Bently is honestly the only one I can think of. They are almost a non-entity unless your child is considering Midwest or farther.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It's not really a continuum other than in terms of available scholarships. D2 has far fewer top notch academic institutions than both D1 and D3, and in many cases has fewer resources devoted to athletics than top tier D3 programs.
                    Take a look at schools on the D2 list and you'll see why people don't often talk about this route. Many you've never even heard of and not many around here. There are exceptions of course but pound for pound academically many D1 and most D3s are stronger

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Take a look at schools on the D2 list and you'll see why people don't often talk about this route. Many you've never even heard of and not many around here. There are exceptions of course but pound for pound academically many D1 and most D3s are stronger
                      Bentley, Stonehill and St A are chopped liver schools? Some folks here clearly think their kid's poop don't stink (that is until they get a sniff of their SAT scores). For many families the NESCAC like schools are nothing but a consolation prize for not making it into an Ivy. Once you get past the snob factor, there are many comparable choices where a student as motivated as a bubble Ivy Leaguer can do exceptionally well, play soccer and even get some money to do it.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        There are also VERY few d2 schools in entire Northeast. Bently is honestly the only one I can think of. They are almost a non-entity unless your child is considering Midwest or farther.
                        They are less numerous here, but not as rare as you think. In MA, you've got AIC, Assumption, Bentley, Merrimack, and Stonehill. In NH, there are Franklin Pierce, SNHU, and St. Anselm. A few more in other New England states. Another 15-20 in NY.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Parent of a senior here. Son has had interest from a few D1s, but he's much more interested in the stronger academic schools, and playing higher D3 soccer. Has had several verbal offers, for whatever they're worth, but waiting for final admissions decision at his top choice before counting any chickens.

                          I'm writing because he's played for strong clubs and a strong HS, but was contacted by coaches more through ID camps than anything else. I was blindsided by the concept of ID camps, and hadn't properly budgeted or planned for them. They are EXPENSIVE, but if your child chooses wisely and has reasonable expectations, it seems ID camps can be very instrumental in getting a player on the radar of the schools in which he/she is interested.
                          What ID Camps would you recommend?

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            What ID Camps would you recommend?
                            I have a 12 year old, and even I know the answer is: camps attended (and/or organized by) coaches *from schools your child is interested attending *.

                            Figure out the schools first, rthen figure out which camp(s).

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              They are less numerous here, but not as rare as you think. In MA, you've got AIC, Assumption, Bentley, Merrimack, and Stonehill. In NH, there are Franklin Pierce, SNHU, and St. Anselm. A few more in other New England states. Another 15-20 in NY.
                              All perfectly fine schools but in general the D2 list academically doesn't come close to D3, especially in the NE. We are blessed with multiple high quality universities within a few hours drive, and most kids will attend a school less than 5 hours drive away.

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                                #30
                                For D2, just look at the Northeast 10 Conference to see the "local" schools- as stated, sounds like there are more than some people think. Hard to general on where they sit academically vis-à-vis D3 since there are so many D3 schools locally. Certainly most highly regarded D3 schools are considered superior academically to most D2 schools, but gets harder to generalize after that. A couple of observations about D2 mens soccer (as it occurs in the northeast- New England and NY)- 1. Academically- The NCAA clearing house standards for D2 are lower than for D1. But there are kids who can't pass the D2 standards, and those kids then sometimes go to play D3 (which has no NCAA clearance requirement)- so take that you D3 snobs. 2. Players- Just like in D1, the schools can grant athletic scholarships (almost as may as D1), and some do and some don't. Some schools have a pretty heavy concentration of foreign players (who you'd expect are getting the scholarship $), and you see a decent number of graduate students on some rosters. But it's really a mix- some schools look to be made up of mostly local kids on a traditional college route, and some are heavily weighted towards foreign and older players who may not be on a traditional college path.

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